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Old 09-18-2010, 04:39 AM   #16
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No I'm not. I'm talking about the HOME and END keys.

Page Up and Page Down scrolls one page up or down (which might not be the top/bottom of the page).
HOME and END go to the actual top or bottom of the page (no matter the length).
I tried them first. They simply don't work.
 
Old 09-18-2010, 04:50 AM   #17
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Hi,
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They simply don't work.
Home,End, Page up, Page down and arrow buttons not working correctly (mozilla support)
Page Up, Page Down, Home & End Not Working in Firefox? (sheeptech)

Hope this helps.
 
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Old 09-18-2010, 04:59 AM   #18
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Oh wow, Now I have set off the caret browsing, now HOME and END keys are working !! Thanks to you ! It was so difficult for me to scroll down a 50 posts thread.

But one thing, since this is not set by default, many users may still find it difficult to scroll down to edit tags. IMHO tags is not some fancy feature to be ignored, it is very necessary to tag a thread in order for tag cloud to work properly.
Well that is my opinion and every one is free to ignore it !

Thanks to you again !

Last edited by TheIndependentAquarius; 09-18-2010 at 05:00 AM.
 
Old 09-18-2010, 05:05 AM   #19
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Hi,

I think this is a browser related problem and not an LQ problem (get yourself a real browser ).
 
Old 09-18-2010, 05:13 AM   #20
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I think this is a browser related problem and not an LQ problem (get yourself a real browser ).
Well said, but since Firefox is the default on most Linux systems, I doubt that most people on LQ use Opera !

I suggest you join LinuxExchange, just to get a feel how tags are being used there. Tags feature has been so well implemented there ...
 
Old 09-18-2010, 06:02 AM   #21
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Hi,

Well, I truly dislike the layout/setup of LinuxExchange: In many ways it is not separated/clear enough (lack of structure/sub forums?). Maybe that is because it seems the tag system is the base of it all.

Compare this: LinuxExchange - Home with this: LQ - Questions
The same is true for individual questions/answers: LinuxExchange - random thread and LQ - this thread.
I find LQ to be much more clear and intuitive the way it is.

Looks like LinuxExchange also has thread based tags instead of post based tags. Which I don't like too much. Before this change was made here at LQ I could tag and retrieve my own individual posts, which isn't possible any more. It, my own tags, was the only reason I used the tag system from time to time, it made searching for specific posts I made a lot easier. The way it is implemented now will probably mean that I won't look at/use the tag system any more.

If Jeremy finds a way to put the thread based tags into the first post without cluttering it too much it could be an improvement: Below the (possible) signature and on the far left side of the Report and Quote button would be a possibility.

As alway, just my 2c.
 
Old 09-18-2010, 06:18 AM   #22
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In many ways it is not separated/clear enough (lack of structure/sub forums?). Maybe that is because it seems the tag system is the base of it all.

Compare this: LinuxExchange - Home with this: LQ - Questions
That site is meant for a different audience with a different objective similar to "stackoverflow".

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If Jeremy finds a way to put the thread based tags into the first post without cluttering it too much it could be an improvement: Below the (possible) signature and on the far left side of the Report and Quote button would be a possibility.

As alway, just my 2c.
I suggested in my previous post to move the tag bar on the top just to make it more eye catching. For example you must have noticed "Mark this thread as solved" link at the right bottom of the first post on your own thread !
I doubt on its easy visibility for the newbies since still people have to be reminded to mark their threads solved and I have noticed people still ask them to do it through the "thread tools" menu rather than pointing them to the link at the bottom of the first post, perhaps because they themselves have not noticed it.
 
Old 09-18-2010, 06:44 AM   #23
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That site is meant for a different audience with a different objective similar to "stackoverflow".
I know it has a different audience and it might well be that those that use LinuxExchange are happy with it, but you suggested to compare them

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I suggested in my previous post to move the tag bar on the top just to make it more eye catching. For example you must have noticed "Mark this thread as solved" link at the right bottom of the first post on your own thread !
Are you talking about LinuxExchange? I haven't posted a question. I hardly ever post a question, even here on LQ. Just checked: 5 technical questions, 10 questions/remarks in LQ Suggestions & Feedback and 4 none-technical questions/remarks. 19 in 7 years time.

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I doubt on its easy visibility for the newbies since still people have to be reminded to mark their threads solved and I have noticed people still ask them to do it through the "thread tools" menu rather than pointing them to the link at the bottom of the first post, perhaps because they themselves have not noticed it.
I do fully agree on this issue!!
The RESOLVED button should be clearly visible in the first post (or appear after 1 answer is given?).

To come back to a previous remark by you:
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but since Firefox is the default on most Linux systems.
Maybe that is true, but all the major browsers I worked with (Opera, Safari, IE, Chrome) seem to implement the home/end/page up/down keys correctly. Making a site browser specific is a very bad idea (dive into the reason why so many still _have to_ use IE version 6.....). Those that use Firefox should start posting complains about this, maybe the Firefox developers would finally "see the light" and change this default setting.
 
Old 09-18-2010, 06:56 AM   #24
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I know it has a different audience and it might well be that those that use LinuxExchange are happy with it, but you suggested to compare them
I suggested to compare the TAGS feature, nothing else !

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Are you talking about LinuxExchange? I haven't posted a question. I hardly ever post a question, even here on LQ. Just checked: 5 technical questions, 10 questions/remarks in LQ Suggestions & Feedback and 4 none-technical questions/remarks. 19 in 7 years time.

Check any one of your thread's first post [created here on LQ]

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I do fully agree on this issue!!
The RESOLVED button should be clearly visible in the first post (or appear after 1 answer is given?).
Check this out : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...solved-814674/

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Making a site browser specific is a very bad idea
Of course it is, but what can be done if most people on LQ use Firefox

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Old 09-18-2010, 07:51 AM   #25
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Hi,
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I suggested to compare the TAGS feature, nothing else !
True, but it seems that that forum is tag based, that is why I dragged all the other stuff into the discussion.

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Check any one of your thread's first post [created here on LQ]
I did, that's why I asked if this was LinuxExchange related. Or put diffrently: I don't see a SOLVED button anywhere. That's not counting the Thread Tools pull down menu, which is way to obscure (especially for newbies). Have a look at the screen shot I added.

Good thread, too bad nothing seem to have come from it.

Quote:
Of course it is, but what can be done if most people on LQ use Firefox
Like I said: Start complaining by the Firefox developers. Developers in general should stop making pages browser specific, it is the most annoying thing about surfing the net: You're browser isn't supported use X or Y. Standards are there for a reason, force developers to comply! Problem solved!!

Last edited by druuna; 01-31-2014 at 01:23 PM.
 
Old 09-18-2010, 08:35 AM   #26
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Or put diffrently: I don't see a SOLVED button anywhere. That's not counting the Thread Tools pull down menu, which is way to obscure (especially for newbies).

Good thread, too bad nothing seem to have come from it.
There was a "Mark this thread Solved" link on the bottom of the first post till last few days. Jeremy must have removed it without issuing any notifications like he has removed the "Users viewing this forum" at the bottom of the forum !
 
Old 09-18-2010, 10:10 AM   #27
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Hi,
I'm not in favour of that, this would clutter the top of the page more then necessary. These extra tools might be nice, but the main focus should always be on the posts made and not on the extra's.
FWIW, this closely mirrors how we feel and is how we will continue to approach most design designs here at LQ.

--jeremy
 
Old 09-18-2010, 11:39 AM   #28
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But one thing, since this is not set by default, many users may still find it difficult to scroll down to edit tags.
HOME and END keys have worked by default on every firefox install I've seen.
 
Old 09-18-2010, 11:42 AM   #29
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HOME and END keys have worked by default on every firefox install I've seen.
Mine is the latest version and it didn't work by default !!
 
Old 09-18-2010, 01:39 PM   #30
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HOME and END keys have worked by default on every firefox install I've seen.
I just checked Firefox (Windows version), HOME and END keys work there by default !
The latest Firefox I was referring to (in the previous posts) is on Linux.
 
  


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