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Old 09-15-2010, 01:04 PM   #1
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Tagging at LQ


You may have noticed that we recently moved all tagging at LQ from a post context to a thread context. We believe this simpler approach will promote more tag use and be more powerful in the long run. Some of the functionality that we had intended post-level tagging to address will be implemented via other ways. As always, feedback is welcome.

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Old 09-15-2010, 03:11 PM   #2
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nice to see I can add tags with spaces now, thank you
 
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Old 09-15-2010, 07:24 PM   #3
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I've started to cleanup tags and the top 100 list (http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/tags/) looks substantially better than it did. I'll be removing superfluous or clearly unneeded tags, merging tags and doing further cleanup over the next few days. If you have any suggestions on how we can improve this feature or can make it more useful, let me know.

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Old 09-16-2010, 01:39 AM   #4
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Currently the newbies and new members are also allowed to tag the threads and since most of them have no idea how and why to do it, they end up with tags like "help", "wtf", "question" etc..

I have noticed the newbies on LinuxExchange are not allowed to create the new Tags, they have to choose from the previous ones (This is helpful since it prevents the misuse of tag creation). I don't know what they do there when the desired tags are not pre-existing in the tag-cloud.

If you could explain that mechanism here then may be some ideas can be mixed up to create a better tagging technique !

The new tag bar is not easily visible/noticeable either.

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Old 09-16-2010, 10:13 AM   #5
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I have noticed the newbies on LinuxExchange are not allowed to create the new Tags, they have to choose from the previous ones (This is helpful since it prevents the misuse of tag creation). I don't know what they do there when the desired tags are not pre-existing in the tag-cloud.
The situation is now similar in the new tag implementation here at LQ.

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Old 09-16-2010, 10:17 AM   #6
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So now here have you limited tag creation to "Senior members" only ? If so what are newbies supposed to do if they require a tag which is not already available in the cloud ?
 
Old 09-16-2010, 10:25 AM   #7
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Unlike LE, threads at LQ do not *need* to be tagged, so they can proceed as normal without the tag. They can optionally post a note in the content of their thread asking for a particular tag.

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Old 09-16-2010, 07:14 PM   #8
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Tags are missing today ?

( Can't use essential tags for search any more ?
And cannot refer to a 'tag', a tagged thread / post. )

Will they be enabled again ?

Kind Regards knudfl.
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Old 09-17-2010, 10:54 AM   #9
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knudfl, tags should not be "missing" in any way. Keep in mind that moving forward, tags will apply to threads and *not* to posts, so the layout is different. You can still search for tags on the search page, on the tags page or by clicking on a tag at the bottom of a thread. If you have any other questions, let me know.

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Old 09-17-2010, 05:32 PM   #10
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Post #9 , jeremy : Thank you, I found the new "Tags".

A bit of a hideaway location, isn't it ?
...

But anyway, much worse is : I had numerous posts cross referenced
to other posts by 'Tag Names'. Those tags are now missing.
Example : 'ns2' threads tagged : ns2, ns226, ns227, ns234, etc. etc.
All gone. (Except for one thread, I "re-tagged" five minutes ago.)


Text, quote : "Please read other posts tagged ns227".
What to do ? It will be a huge job to reestablish all that.
......
 
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But anyway, much worse is : I had numerous posts cross referenced
to other posts by 'Tag Names'. Those tags are now missing.
Example : 'ns2' threads tagged : ns2, ns226, ns227, ns234, etc. etc.
All gone. (Except for one thread, I "re-tagged" five minutes ago.)
As part of the tag clean and merge, we removed many tags (specifically those linked only to a couple posts). The tags taxonomy as imported was unfortunately too large to be sustainable or useful.

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Old 09-18-2010, 01:19 AM   #12
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The Tags bar could be placed on the top of the thread rather than the bottom, it would be more visible. Moreover, I wanted to tag a thread, "wireless", it had 21 replies , I had to scroll down a very long page to get the tag bar

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Old 09-18-2010, 04:16 AM   #13
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Hi,
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The Tags bar could be placed on the top of the thread rather than the bottom, it would be more visible.
I'm not in favour of that, this would clutter the top of the page more then necessary. These extra tools might be nice, but the main focus should always be on the posts made and not on the extra's.

Just my 2c.

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Moreover, I wanted to tag a thread, "wireless", it had 21 replies , I had to scroll down a very long page to get the tag bar
Doesn't your browser support the HOME (go to top of page) and END (go to bottom of page) keys?
 
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You are talking about the "Page up" / "Page down", I can't move up back by "Page up" after I have moved down with "Page down". I don't know whats the problem here ! Firefox 3.6.10

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Old 09-18-2010, 04:37 AM   #15
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Hi,
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You are talking about the "Page up" / "Page down", I can't move up back by "Page up" after I have moved down with "Page down". I don't know whats the problem here ! Firefox 3.6.10
No I'm not. I'm talking about the HOME and END keys.

Page Up and Page Down scrolls one page up or down (which might not be the top/bottom of the page).
HOME and END go to the actual top or bottom of the page (no matter the length).
 
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