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Old 04-01-2013, 12:04 AM   #1
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Questions >= 100 chars & adding poll to existing thread? (was: "False Start")


Sorry, LinuxQuestions.org doesn't allow to put the questions longer than 100 characters and doesn't allow to add the poll to the existing thread (or I couldn't find that).

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Old 04-01-2013, 06:08 AM   #2
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Please stop spamming this forum with nonsense threads. It's starting to get annoying.
 
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:02 AM   #3
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I just tried to put here a poll but the LQ engine rejected it because one question was longer than 100 characters and at the same time LQ engine accepted the opening post for my poll. As a result I ended with the opening post referring to an non-existing poll.

So I renamed it to “False Start” and changed the content of that unwanted post.

More user friendly engine could either give a chance to edit a doubtful question or should reject both poll and post.
 
Old 04-01-2013, 04:13 PM   #4
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Moved: This thread is more suitable in the LQ Suggestions & Feedback forum. It's title was ameliorated slash made more suitable and the thread has been moved accordingly to help your thread/question get the exposure it deserves.
 
Old 04-02-2013, 09:46 AM   #5
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Thanks for the feedback. You should be able to add a poll to an existing thread via the "Thread Tools" dropdown.

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Old 04-10-2013, 09:31 AM   #6
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An explanation

jeremy,

Thank you very much for that reply. Even with your tip it lasted a while before I found that option.

Before I submitted my “Ultimate Slackware Poll” thread for the first time I tested the poll engine opening Who are you? (testing poll) thread in “Linux – Newbie” section. I did it in order to test the poll engine before I will submit my genuine poll. Because there is no here the “Testing” section and the “General” section works in an another way than the other sections I choose the “Linux – Newbie” section to perform that test. It was a reasonable choice from my point of view because I was then a newbie pollster and I wanted to make sure that I know how to put a poll into LinuxQuestions.org before I do that actually.

My testing poll worked well so I submitted my “Ultimate Slackware Poll” thread in “Slackware” section but the engine rejected the poll because one question was longer than 100 characters and it accepted the post opening a new thread at the same time. In that very moment I started to work in a hurry. First I tried to find the way to add the poll to the existing thread but I failed. So then I changed the title “Ultimate Slackware Poll” to “False Start” and changed the original content of the first post to the disclaimer. The result was a bit strange so some people were confused with that unwanted post. I was confused as well. The moderator changed the title of that post to the more suitable one and moved that thread here according to the content.

After that false start I shortened that too long question and finally published successfully my Ultimate Slackware Poll thread. It seems that some people were still confused and missed the fact that the poll was submitted April 1st so it is an obvious joke. I did a lot of the work three months ago when I prepared that poll and I waited with it patiently to the April Fools’ Day so it was not some impulsive or ill-considered action from my side.

In the meantime the moderator closed my “Who are you? (testing poll)” thread. It does not matter. He could leave that poll opened or close it. 10 posters had fun commenting that poll and 1 poster was confused – or it only seems to me that he was confused – so the ratio was positive.

On the other hand in the same time some people started to discuss the sense of my “Ultimate Slackware Poll” thread and one of them stated: “Perhaps it is a campaign to convince Jeremy to remove the poll option from the board?”. As I mentioned above they missed the fact that the poll was submitted April 1st. Then some poster called me there “the fool”. In my reply I called him “smart”. Then the poster which discussed the sense of the polls called my comments: “extremely thinly disguised insults to everyone who did not understand or were not amused by the joke”. To recapitulate: someone called me “the fool”, I called him “smart”, and someone else claims that my answer is an “extremely thinly disguised insult”. It seems that he should invest in some good English language dictionary to learn what “insult” means.

I published the above here to recapitulate all these threads: “Who are you? (testing poll)”, “False Start”, and “Ultimate Slackware Poll”. It is pointless to discuss with the haters publishing their comments in that last thread so I am refraining from that. On the other hand I wanted to explain why I posted three threads instead of one and why I posted for God’s sake that last one thread.

Since I criticized in some thread the conspiracy theories and then asked one respectable but stubborn poster to reveal there a link to just one reasonable conspiracy theory and he was not able to find it a lot of LinuxQuestions.org members started to hate me. From my point of view it is good because I filtered all the members through the sieve of a reason but it causes that from time to time someone tries to attack or insult me and – as a result – I answer to him or her with my dry wit.
 
Old 04-10-2013, 02:37 PM   #7
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Because you advertised this thread in your Slackware poll as an answer to your poll I will reply here.

You started 3 spam polls in a very short space of time for what reason? An April fools day joke? Sorry but it fell flat not because it was a poor joke (even though it was) but because it was poorly executed. There is nothing about hate from anyone in that thread, no one has been following you just to annoy you but many have pointed out it just was not funny. There is no conspiracy at all your joke didn't make for a good time. I don't understand why you are upset over this and feel the need to drag us all through other threads you have particpated in so we may see some small event that has prompted the starting of 3 spam polls.

Your replies in the slackware poll are really nothing short of insults to groups of people and when you get a reply about it you you get all sensitive and insult the person replying to you. April fools is over and seriously, yes I am serious once again, you have shown you just don't understand the idea behind Aprils fools. The planning was poor (previous spam polls in preparation did nothing but annoy everyone else), the execution was poor (the topic really should have been in General because it was not technical and did not ask for help), and the end result including your reply above is poor. I'm sorry if you feel you are being picked at, followed around, etc etc etc. but look at this from the eyes of others who 9 days after your "April fools day joke" are seriously tired of it because you are still going on about it. Isn't it time to move on?

I started a St Patrick day thread (in General because that was the appropriate spot to put it) a few years ago, it fell flat so I let it die a natural death maybe you should do the same and stop advertising things so others can reply to you.
 
Old 04-10-2013, 11:25 PM   #8
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Since I criticized in some thread the conspiracy theories and then asked one respectable but stubborn poster to reveal there a link to just one reasonable conspiracy theory and he was not able to find it a lot of LinuxQuestions.org members started to hate me.
The two incidents are unrelated, but if we imagine for a moment that the two actually have a connection, do you believe complaining because people did not find your bad joke funny will endear you to those people?
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It seems that some people were still confused and missed the fact that the poll was submitted April 1st so it is an obvious joke.
No it is not obvious. April Fool's Day is a morning set aside for children and adults "young at heart" to joke in a few countries. It is not a universal custom. So as hard as it may be for you to believe, many people will not be able, or willing, to separate bad jokes from foolish posts. 1st April may be a big day for you, but for most people who use the European calendar, it is just another day.

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After that false start
You prepared for the joke by posting a shorter joke first? Do you honestly not see the glaring flaw in that procedure?

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I did a lot of the work three months ago when I prepared that poll and I waited with it patiently to the April Fools’ Day so it was not some impulsive or ill-considered action from my side.
1) The joke had a quarter of year's preparation, but was still not funny?
2) The fact that you put so much thought into something so trivial is ... um ... amazing.

And now you whine, because people did not appreciate your bad joke.
As one of the other malcontents posted above, get over it and move on.

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Old 04-14-2013, 05:10 PM   #9
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jeremy,

As I see you improved the poll engine.

I just tried to post a poll including the statement:

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[COLOR="Gray"]I registered myself (and maybe my machine) on http://linuxcounter.net[/COLOR]
It consists of 91 characters including the COLOR tags. The same sentence including the URL tags added by the engine consists of 102 characters:

Code:
[COLOR="Gray"]I registered myself (and maybe my machine) on [URL]http://linuxcounter.net[/URL][/COLOR]
The engine rejected it as consisting of more than 100 characters but it was enough to remove the brackets in order to fit the limit.

Well done, jeremy. Thank you very much!
 
Old 04-14-2013, 11:26 PM   #10
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jeremy,

As I see you improved the poll engine.

I just tried to post a poll including the statement:
Say what? you are posting yet another poll?
 
Old 04-24-2013, 03:18 PM   #11
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Say what? you are posting yet another poll?
Indeed. Did you find it yet?

***

An update keeping the post on topic after jeremy’s reminder from post #13:

There are two polls which I submitted after three polls mentioned in the post #6: the first and the second. In the post #9 I referred to the first from these threads.

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Old 04-24-2013, 03:32 PM   #12
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Indeed. Did you find it yet?
You know something, it's things like this that show how far LQ has slid. It used to be a place where people could go into a technical forum and get technical advice. Now any Tom, Dick, or Harry can go into a technical forum and post a poll that has no intrinsic value. It is a waste of space, time, and bandwidth and clutters up technical forums so that people start thinking there is no value to it.
 
Old 04-24-2013, 03:41 PM   #13
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Please keep this thread on topic. And a reminder from the LQ Rules (especially with regard to post #11):

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Please keep this thread on topic. And a reminder from the LQ Rules (especially with regard to post #11):



--jeremy
Jeremy with all due respect let me just point out using the search function indicates that in the last month 22/63 of w1k0's posts in Slackware have been of a non-technical nature, this includes entire topics. Where does that fit into the rules? I can understand it in General, where it is clear things that are of a general nature (i.e. jokes) are appropriate. From my understanding of the rules, and I do not consider this off-topic now rules have been brought into this discussion by someone other than myself, it is clear General is for non-technical threads and that the actual Linux and distro specific forums are for technical topics.

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While I am in essence a Debian user I read many of the various sub forums within LQ so that I can extend my knowledge and skills and help others in various places I visit. I think, personally, it is a little sad that the Slackware sub forum has recently had a huge increase of such posts.
 
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Jeremy with all due respect let me just point out using the search function indicates that in the last month 22/63 of w1k0's posts in Slackware have been of a non-technical nature, this includes entire topics. Where does that fit into the rules?
For some distribution fora (such as Slackware), where LQ is the official and main forum, we do tend to be slightly more lenient than elsewhere on this particular issue so that the community can discuss things amongst themselves. That said, if there is a pattern or this is done excessively, it's something we should look into.

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While I am in essence a Debian user I read many of the various sub forums within LQ so that I can extend my knowledge and skills and help others in various places I visit. I think, personally, it is a little sad that the Slackware sub forum has recently had a huge increase of such posts.
As with any content you think isn't appropriate for or in the best interest of LQ, you should use the Report functionality to bring the issue to the attention of the appropriate mods.

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