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 07-31-2005, 11:14 AM #1 jonaskoelker Senior Member   Registered: Jul 2004 Location: Denmark Distribution: Ubuntu, Debian Posts: 1,524 Rep: New (sub)forum: Free (libre) Games Hi. I just browsed through the games forum, and something struck me: most (or all) of the game titles mentioned in the thread titles are non-free. While some people don't mind, I do. And I'm quite convinced that I'm not alone. That's why I suggest a subforum of games: free (libre) games--specifically for discussion matters related to games that are free software. I'm quite sure it wouldn't generate thread-collisions' w. Games (since (seemingly) most of the talk in Games is about non-free games), and that it would draw enough traffic (because n people can't be wrong). In any case, *I*'d like to see that. --Jonas
 07-31-2005, 12:51 PM #2 titanium_geek Senior Member   Registered: May 2002 Location: Melbourne Australia Distribution: it died/ macosx Posts: 2,478 Rep: hmm.... an interesting thought- but yeah- I dunno if the site admin would appreciate more complicated forum-ness. Umm... I agree about the non-free (gratis and libre) stuff... but then again- would you remove questions about dual booting, makeing word work in wine, etc etc? titanium_geek
 07-31-2005, 01:07 PM #3 jeremy root   Registered: Jun 2000 Distribution: Debian, Red Hat, Slackware, Fedora, Ubuntu Posts: 11,220 Rep: At this time I don't think their is sufficient traffic to break the games forum up into multiple sub-forums. Discussion of Libre games would certainly be on topic and welcome in the current Games forum though. --jeremy
07-31-2005, 05:30 PM   #4
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Denmark
Distribution: Ubuntu, Debian
Posts: 1,524

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 not enough traffic
If you say so, Jeremy.

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 libre games !OT \in Games
Thanks, I figured that much out

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 remove dual-booting / word-in-wine
No, and I don't think it follows from anything I said.

I understand the thinking pattern -- "why make libre a special case *only* for games?" I'll explain that in a hopefully convincing way.

Games differ from non-games (i.e. browsers, spreadsheets, compilers -- programs that gets a job done') in that most non-free non-games have a free replacement/alternative that's *just as good*.

Games don't have that--or if they do, then please, *please*, show me a free RPG about as good as Diablo II, an RTS about as good as Warcraft III and an FPS about as good as Counter-strike (or AVP 2) (considering graphics, music, sound effects, gameplay, story, ...; consider it OK if the sum is about as good, even though some parts are sub-par).

Which is why most people run non-free games: the free games just don't cut it'. And hence, the games forum drown in talks about non-free games (and accessories, like Cedega (it's non-free, right?)).

So, even though libre gamers' like me are welcome in Games, we would probably drown out in the `noise'.

*That* is why I propose(d) a seperate forum for libre games.

Note also that I didn't suggest anything about removing anything from Games as it is.

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In any case, since it won't be made here, does anyone know of such a forum elsewhere?

In any case, thanks.

--Jonas

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