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What people need to remember is that Linux is highly configureable. There are at least as many ways to accomplish a task in Linux as there are users. Therefore, opinions will run rampant.
Stating that someone is lurking and posting just to post when they say they have an opinion on something is shortsighted and close-minded. Yes, I acknowledge the fact that some posts are mindless and/or comical. So what? This is a community, and as such is composed of individuals, not mindless automatons. It isn't the computer that is responding to your questions, it's a person, and that person will have opinions backed by experience. Perhaps we need to pay attention and listen; we might actually learn something.
Ok, Jeremy, ok, I'll keep on topic:
Noob Buster
You Rang?
And on a lighter side:
Distrowhore (for those who have more than 6 different distributions of Linux going at the same time...) *grin*
Determining who gets/earns these titles isn't going to be automatic. Jeremy or another moderator is going to be assigning these. Many of the suggested titles could be taken either way. If there was a thanking system, one could use that data to easily determine which title a prolific poster would earn. Imho, titles like Guru and Wizard aren't appropriate as those imply special talents.
"win_to_lin_migrant..." Don't most LQ users fall into this category? Does that make me "special"? Does not having M$ operating on any computer in my house make me anti-M$? Maybe, but that's personal and I don't care to flame about it. My first pleasant/fun user experience was on a Xerox Alto which used a variant of Unix, my first (at 'home') electronic computer was a "Big-Board" which ran on CP/M and a z80 chip and an 8" floppy disk (had to buy components separately and build it all myself). (BTW, I still have a Penguin T-shirt from one of the first shows in San Jose, seems like it was from the Palo Alto Research booth, might have been the very first show, it was around '93 or '94)(and I still have a Storm Linux distro passed out at a later show, came in a fancy pre-printed cardboard box with CD and literature). (Also still have a huge stack of Linux magazines from the '90's). But just because I'm a long-time Linux dabbler, does not make me a Guru, oh contrare mon ami. I would still consider myself a "newbie" and proud to wear that title.
On the mechanics of manually assigning titles, the mod team (when compared to the overall membership) is very small. Even if just one person a month was to hit the 1000 mark, we'd then need the team to read through a great number of threads to determine the quality of the answers given and then make a subjective call. At that point, the mods role is greatly enlarged and the possibility of getting it wrong is magnified - for example, I have no idea whether the quality of posts in Programming would make a member "worthy" of a new title and will likely make mistakes.
Also, the titles are pretty meaningless. They are a very small, easily implementable "free gift" for enhancing the volume of data on LQ. Most forums that I have observed use a similar method of titling users - normally based on the number of posts.
"win_to_lin_migrant..." Don't most LQ users fall into this category? Does that make me "special"? Does not having M$ operating on any computer in my house make me anti-M$? Maybe...
win_to_lin_migrant was a user who, much like yourself, thought this whole idea was ridiculous. He posted some pretty - hmmm, nevermind, I'm not flaming anyone.
Think about it, though, please. The number of posts will also include the posts where that user was asking a question, where they were asking for clarification on an issue they may have been helping resolve, and other things. Who cares what the posts were about? The truth is that whichever reason they had for posting ultimately ended up benefiting the community as a whole (the vast majority of the time).
Ut oh, here comes Jeremy after me again...
Ok, ok!
Try this for those who may have posted 5k + times:
I've been trying to make some sense if this thread. Initially, I've been curiously following the LQ titles people come up with, but it went off on some tangent of an almost altogether non-pertinent discussions.
Now someone posted that the winners have been chosen...where? The post must be lost somewhere among these 350+ replies and I can't find any follow up on the homepage. If the winners have been chosen, why is this thread still open?
"win_to_lin_migrant..." Don't most LQ users fall into this category? Does that make me "special"? Does not having M$ operating on any computer in my house make me anti-M$? Maybe, but that's personal and I don't care to flame about it.
To computer: "I think we should start seeing other operating systems."
More not-winning names for major contributors to, um, quantity, of data (since quality, of information, is a little hard to measure):
I've seen this thread, I've posted my 2 suggestions and haven't looked back into it really, anymore.
Few hours ago I've decided to read from the start.
And no matter what you think about "win_to_lin_migrant" he was right about certain things he said and Jeremy was wrong, although Jeremy wasn't aware of it, I believe. But nevermind that, just forget it.
What hurts me, is just one little thing, and that is; Why the [edited] the winners were chosen by you Jeremy and not by the community? Because, if you are so proud of your openness to suggestions and feedback...
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Originally posted by jeremy; We're more open to feedback and suggestions at LQ than almost any other community (Linux or otherwise) I've ever seen. It's something we strive for and something we're proud of.
...why have you not asked the community how the winners should be chosen? After all, it's them who will be wearing these titles.
If LQ was a website that I've started I wouldn't even ask that, I would let the community decide what they want (poll would be a good option here ) and I certainly wouldn't be the "I've chosen the winners" guy.
This thread went into "this" direction and that's normal considering all the facts, so excuse me if I'm out of topic.
Last edited by alan_ri; 09-30-2009 at 05:07 AM.
Reason: grammar
Distribution: Debian, Red Hat, Slackware, Fedora, Ubuntu
Posts: 13,600
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alan_ri, two things:
1) You've been a member long enough to know that language like that isn't acceptable here at LQ.
2) You're of course free to start a more open Linux community if you think it's possible.
To the point of the actual comment, I actually considered allowing the community to pick one of the winners... but the logistics seemed unfeasible. You have 100,000's of thousands of members who can make arbitrary (and therefor nearly limitless) suggestions at any time, so a regular poll just isn't a reasonable option. A thread full of comments makes it *really* tough to gauge a winner and is almost certainly going to be seen as unfair. However, if there's some consensus here that I have missed a landslide option that the community likes, I'll certainly happily add that option. As with the current winners, I'll even pay for one item from the LQ store out of *my* pocket.
Distribution: Debian, Red Hat, Slackware, Fedora, Ubuntu
Posts: 13,600
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Originally Posted by alan_ri
And no matter what you think about "win_to_lin_migrant" he was right about certain things he said and Jeremy was wrong, although Jeremy wasn't aware of it, I believe. But nevermind that, just forget it.
As always, if you have specific suggestions on how either myself or LQ can improve, please do let us know - be it in a dedicated thread in LQ S&F or directly via email.
LinuxQuestions.org is a website which is ruled by the Master, by the Master's rules and it's far away from the openness of any kind and true spirit of the free software.
Jeremy you are weak, your ego makes you weak, unrealistic.
If you ever overcome these barriers, I might come back here and show my respect for you, which you still have, but in a very small amount.
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