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Old 05-29-2009, 01:23 PM   #31
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Very soon I wont be a Newbie
 
Old 05-29-2009, 02:16 PM   #32
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As an engineering manager, I have developed a reflex in which I come into some random debate and ask: What problem are we trying to solve?

This thread fits---I see no problem with the current system---especially with the "Thanks" feature. I suggest that Jeremy add this to his existing list of ideas for change, and then we can all go back to work.
 
Old 05-29-2009, 02:21 PM   #33
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Jeremy has gone on record publicly within this sub-forum to say that the titles are not indicative of anyone's knowledge and are really just there as a little "thanks" for posting a certain number of times. We have had many many discussions around this subject - to turn the titles into actual ranks, to make them more "fun" and to do away with them altogether. I guess that this is the 2009 H1 thread. We are a relatively self-cleaning forum - duff responses are largely stamped on and corrected and in that way members can see who offers useful information and who doesn't.

All members are encouraged to provide worthwhile answers to questions, whether the member has their own question or not. Frankly, titles are so trivial that it seems odd to devote so much time to the question. The only important title is the one held by Jeremy - that of Admin. All the rest are changeable.
 
Old 06-01-2009, 04:14 AM   #34
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As an engineering manager, I have developed a reflex in which I come into some random debate and ask: What problem are we trying to solve?
What was the problem solved when the current ranking system was put in place???

If you deny that the title 'GURU' is misleading to new members, THEN you probably are not GETTING IT. UNLESS if there was a WELCOME message which deliberately WARNS the new members that these titles are actually USELESS, but then according to my knowledge, newbies will NOT EASILY find threads like these. (of which newbies are the real desperate solutions seekers)

Most of you are brushing away my system before even looking at it, give it a GO. Its a pitty that SOME of these false 'gurus' are AFRAID of being 'STRIPPED' of their self proclaimed GURU status....
 
Old 06-01-2009, 04:43 AM   #35
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Its a pitty that SOME of these false 'gurus' are AFRAID of being 'STRIPPED' of their self proclaimed GURU status....
Ummm, better look again. Last time I checked, pixellany, XavierP, & unSpawn were MODERATORS. Furthermore, NOBODY is a "self-proclaimed" Guru.

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Very soon I wont be a Newbie
Perhaps that's YOUR only goal for continuing to post in this thread?
 
Old 06-01-2009, 04:44 AM   #36
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What was the problem solved when the current ranking system was put in place???

If you deny that the title 'GURU' is misleading to new members, THEN you probably are not GETTING IT. UNLESS if there was a WELCOME message which deliberately WARNS the new members that these titles are actually USELESS, but then according to my knowledge, newbies will NOT EASILY find threads like these. (of which newbies are the real desperate solutions seekers)

Most of you are brushing away my system before even looking at it, give it a GO. Its a pitty that SOME of these false 'gurus' are AFRAID of being 'STRIPPED' of their self proclaimed GURU status....
Why is any title misleading ?
Someone is seeking for a answer for his problem and he get a advise from
somebody look carefully to that advice and make youŕe own judgement .
So a other option is no titles at all .
Meaning No Newbie NO Senior Members NO Guruś Only Members and that is it
 
Old 06-01-2009, 04:46 AM   #37
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Can someone kill this thread?

Signed by a non-guru guru.
 
Old 06-01-2009, 04:53 AM   #38
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Can someone kill this thread?

Signed by a non-guru guru.
...and a non-member member(??)
 
Old 06-01-2009, 05:31 AM   #39
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This thread sucks!!! pure waste of time

...by guru non-guru non-member member

Last edited by chitambira; 06-01-2009 at 05:34 AM.
 
Old 06-01-2009, 07:49 AM   #40
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I was never a guru, I opted for something like "compulsive poster" or whatever the second option was. The titles are not designed to show knowledge and never have done, they have always just been there to recognise number of posts. For guru, read "long term member/high poster" and adjust for the other titles. That is all they show.

To reiterate - the titles and post count do not matter, the knowledge imparted is what is important. Really, if titles mean so much, it is indicative of something deeper seated.
 
Old 06-01-2009, 10:03 PM   #41
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Hi, This post grabbed my attention if only for the statisical math, Not for a need of change.

It helps me understand more about how figures can be

manipulated to reflect "a" point of view (answers a question desirably).

Overall, I agree with "XavierP", valid points and ADMIN is KING.

yours sincerely Glenn

Last edited by GlennsPref; 06-01-2009 at 10:04 PM. Reason: spelling
 
Old 06-02-2009, 03:39 AM   #42
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Hi, This post grabbed my attention if only for the statisical math, Not for a need of change.

It helps me understand more about how figures can be

manipulated to reflect "a" point of view (answers a question desirably).
True, i was also drawn by the maths this guy attempted, its funny how figures can be manipulated and produce 'some trend'
 
Old 06-02-2009, 10:30 AM   #43
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1st, if you agree that this thread is "Terrible", rate it that way.

2nd, thank you, rob124, for inspiring me to think up a new epithet that I didn't learn in the Army. I won't mention here because it would a personal attack &c.

3rd, did anyone bother to apply the formula to some of our long time users?
Code:
acid_kewpie 32,250 Jun 01==95  89=90  3.772
trickykid   23,957 Jan 01==100   6=7 34.224
XavierP     16,863 Nov 02==78  35=36  6.005
unSpawn     15,102 May 01==96  92=93  1.692
jeremy       6,850 Jun 00==107 92=93  0.688
archtoad6    3,300 Oct 04==55  25=26  2.308
saikee       2,951 Sep 05==44  11=12  5.589
rob124          25 Mar 09==02    0=1 12.500
figures current at time post was composed
I hope this real world test speaks for itself.

4th, vBulletin already includes a reputation feature which jeremy has wisely not implemented (along w/ avatars -- esp. moving ones).
 
Old 06-03-2009, 04:12 AM   #44
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Code:
@archtoad6
acid_kewpie 32,250  Jun 01==95   89=90  3.772
trickykid   23,957  Jan 01==100  6=7   34.224
XavierP     16,863  Nov 02==78   35=36  6.005
unSpawn     15,102  May 01==96   92=93  1.692
jeremy      6,850   Jun 00==107  92=93  0.688
archtoad6   3,300   Oct 04==55   25=26  2.308
saikee      2,951   Sep 05==44   11=12  5.589
rob124      25      Mar 09==02   0=1    12.500
figures current at time post was composed
Interesting, check the translations!
Code:
acid_kewpie 32,250 Jun 01==95  89=90  3.772  User
trickykid   23,957 Jan 01==100   6=7 34.224  Learner
XavierP     16,863 Nov 02==78  35=36  6.005  User
unSpawn     15,102 May 01==96  92=93  1.692  Advanced User
jeremy       6,850 Jun 00==107 92=93  0.688  TRUE GURU
archtoad6    3,300 Oct 04==55  25=26  2.308  User.....(close to adv user)
saikee       2,951 Sep 05==44  11=12  5.589  User
rob124          25 Mar 09==02    0=1 12.500  LQ Newbie...(Cannot rank)
Can some one pick up some of your familiar/welknown usernames whom you associate with good answers and try this lets see.

As a reminder of the criteria:
Quote:
Formula is (posts/(thanks+1))/months_as_member
If your score is above 8, --> Learner
If your score is less than 8, --> User
If your score is less than 2, --> Advanced User
If your score is less than 1, --> Expert
If your score is less than 0.8, --> Guru
Then all users whose accounts are 3 months old or less --> LQ Newbies

Last edited by rob124; 06-03-2009 at 04:55 AM.
 
Old 06-03-2009, 04:26 AM   #45
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Which given that the first 4 in the list are some of the most knowledgeable in the forum shows how poorly you "system" works.
 
  


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