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Old 08-27-2010, 07:39 PM   #256
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And nobody answered my questions!
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ml#post4080000 ??
 
Old 08-27-2010, 07:39 PM   #257
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No, not it!

Why does the amount of rep added when you click the add reb button vary depending on the age and post count and what's the algorithm?

Will someone FINALLY answer?
 
Old 08-27-2010, 07:45 PM   #258
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And nobody answered my questions!
This thread is about the LQ Reputation System and not your issues or your threads.
It would be more polite to keep your own issues confined to your own, separate thread.


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No, not it!
..and just saying "no" is utterly unhelpful.
 
Old 08-27-2010, 07:48 PM   #259
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As for the algorithm I can't speak, but I believe that the amount of rep varies based on a user's age and own reputation to prevent abuse, and because a user with a higher reputation is more likely to be giving rep on more advanced issues.

If a user could just create multiple accounts and give himself 50 rep points on the same post repeatedly then the reputation feature is more or less in question so the person's age who is giving rep is an anti-abuse feature. I believe you get auto-incremented based on your post count in the same way that your member level increases as well.
 
Old 08-27-2010, 07:53 PM   #260
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This thread is about the LQ Reputation System and not your issues or your threads.
COME ON, WHY DOES EVERYONE MISUNDERSTAND ME???

I asked some questions about the rep system here and they were never answered.
 
Old 08-27-2010, 08:06 PM   #261
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I'm referring to issues as in posts like #46 "very confusing and insultingly sarcastic", #51 "I'm talking about the ones a few weeks/months ago" and #65 "hurt feelings".
 
Old 08-27-2010, 08:22 PM   #262
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I'm referring to issues as in posts like #46 "very confusing and insultingly sarcastic", #51 "I'm talking about the ones a few weeks/months ago" and #65 "hurt feelings".
I don't understand.
 
Old 08-27-2010, 08:40 PM   #263
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NP, I'll explain it in an email to you.
 
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Old 08-27-2010, 10:13 PM   #264
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I don't understand.
I guess he is talking about the "hypothetical member" topic
 
Old 08-27-2010, 10:23 PM   #265
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Did you find this post helpful? Don't forget to let me know by clicking "yes" or "no"!
Want to know what those little green boxes mean? It's the brand-spanking new Reputation system!
Nice signature, xeleema
 
Old 08-27-2010, 10:46 PM   #266
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Negative rep for not being helpful seems like it would be a deterrent to someone who is on the fence with a suggestion. Anything that prevents honest efforts to help someone sounds like a bad idea to me.
+1

"Not helpful" should never be clicked if the person is trying to be honestly helpful !

This can seriously be misused if the rep points are set to be decreasing on a "No" click !

And as far as actual "Unhelpful" post is concerned, the "Silver Scales" symbol can be used there for "commenting and then decreasing the reputation".
 
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Old 08-27-2010, 10:48 PM   #267
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Are there any plans for reverting the "yes/NO" click of the "helpful feature" ?

I feel bad if I accidentally click "No" on someone's post !
 
Old 08-27-2010, 11:36 PM   #268
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Are there any plans for reverting the "yes/NO" click of the "helpful feature" ?

I feel bad if I accidentally click "No" on someone's post !
Agreed. I don't think I've ever done it but it seems easy to do. Especially as it's right by the quote button.

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I don't think so; more likely what will become important is the number in relation to other members' (which is why I think the current dots system will have advantages as the system matures).
This doesn't really help the new person who has a problem and gets one reply to his post. What can he compare it against? How does he know the relation to other members? The best thing might be for him to go looking up unrelated threads to find more numbers to compare against, but he's unlikely to do that and, if he does, where does he stop with confidence that he has some kind of meaningful baseline? I sure hope he doesn't use a thread you're in as a baseline and decide everyone else in the forum is an idiot.

Perhaps instead of using cumulative 'points' the system could just assign a percentage or descriptive label so that everyone would be more confident in what '92%' or 'Very Helpful Poster' meant?

On another note, people mention a time limit on 'good rep' but I'm not sure that's a good idea - rather the reverse. True, a poster can fall out of touch but what's more likely is that he's just elsewhere. As a personal example with me and the old system, I've been registered at LQ for c.7 years and posted c.4,000 times but, under the 'thanks' system, had a very low number of 'thanked posts' in relation to that and other posters. This was just because I happened to make almost all my posts before the 'thanks' system had even been implemented, having been away from LQ for awhile until recently. This made me look even dumber than I am. I'd rather people (including myself) not be penalized just because they were helping people on IRC or Usenet or were involved in a project or were just taking a vacation, rather than posting here for awhile.

I get that this is partly designed to encourage participation here, but it shouldn't indicate a person's help has lower quality just because there's lower quantity. If so, it might even discourage long-time helpful posters who do take a break from ever coming back, if they look like unhelpful, un-knowledgeable people upon their return.

The only way it's useful (other than mere egoboo for the helper)[1] is if it means something to the new user who's getting help and trying to decide if that particular post is likely to be useful to them. I doubt icons of scales or blocks or an abstract number will be intuitive for them, or that penalizing occasional posters will help them at the moment such a poster posts.

But, while I'm not really a fan of such systems in general, I think trying to help the new user evaluate the kind of help he's getting should be useful and I look forward to seeing how it plays out.

[1] Actually, I take that back - as others have noted, it also serves as feedback for the helper to let them know if they're doing a good job. But the primary emphasis should be on the helpee.

Last edited by slakmagik; 08-27-2010 at 11:42 PM. Reason: recalled helper feedback aspect
 
Old 08-28-2010, 12:03 AM   #269
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erm.. how do I opt out? People already know I am a tool...dont need a dot under my name exclaiming it. Cool idea though, especially for the mods and stuff.
 
Old 08-28-2010, 12:45 AM   #270
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erm.. how do I opt out? People already know I am a tool...dont need a dot under my name exclaiming it. Cool idea though, especially for the mods and stuff.
Click the link to the FAQ in my signature. It'll give you a 101 on the new Reputation system, as well as how to "Opt Out".

Cheers!
 
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