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H_TeXMeX_H 05-25-2013 03:34 AM

LQ doesn't load anymore, I am posting through CGI proxy
 
If I type in linuxquestions.org in the browser, it just says connecting and then it fails with "The connection has timed out". It seems that the site is up, as I am able to view the site and post from a CGI proxy. Is my IP banned or something ? I guess I could reset the router ?

k3lt01 05-25-2013 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H (Post 4958582)
If I type in linuxquestions.org in the browser, it just says connecting and then it fails with "The connection has timed out".

Mine works fine, try a different browser and see what happens.
Quote:

Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H (Post 4958582)
It seems that the site is up, as I am able to view the site and post from a CGI proxy.

The beginning of this sentence indicates you are not really sure about that. Of course it is up, you just posted on it.
Quote:

Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H (Post 4958582)
Is my IP banned or something ?

Is this paranoia or something?
Quote:

Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H (Post 4958582)
I guess I could reset the router ?

You haven't actually tried to solve this on your own yet? Try a few different things and then if it doesn't work as it should ask for help.

H_TeXMeX_H 05-25-2013 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k3lt01 (Post 4958603)
Mine works fine, try a different browser and see what happens.
The beginning of this sentence indicates you are not really sure about that. Of course it is up, you just posted on it.
Is this paranoia or something?
You haven't actually tried to solve this on your own yet? Try a few different things and then if it doesn't work as it should ask for help.

Tried various browsers on multiple computers and OSs and it doesn't help.
Tried resetting router and it doesn't help.

I didn't change any configuration for anything any time recently, so I doubt it is on my side.

unSpawn 05-25-2013 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H (Post 4958582)
If I type in linuxquestions.org in the browser, it just says connecting and then it fails with "The connection has timed out".

Give us a 'tcptraceroute www.linuxquestions.org 80' and a 'curl -v http://www.linuxquestions.org/'?

H_TeXMeX_H 05-25-2013 10:20 AM

Code:

bash-4.2$ tracepath linuxquestions.org/80
 1:  192.168.1.3                                          0.087ms pmtu 1500
 1:  192.168.1.1                                          0.702ms
 1:  192.168.1.1                                          0.612ms
 2:  92.83.60.218                                          0.924ms pmtu 1492
 2:  92.83.48.254                                        29.695ms
 3:  10.0.223.177                                        30.922ms
 4:  10.0.223.169                                        72.957ms asymm 11
 5:  10.0.243.225                                        73.225ms asymm  9
 6:  10.0.200.77                                          75.896ms asymm  8
 7:  10.0.240.2                                          77.520ms
 8:  bbr01.xn01.fra01.networklayer.com                    68.908ms
 9:  ae7.bbr02.xn01.fra01.networklayer.com                75.437ms
10:  ae1.bbr01.eq01.ams02.networklayer.com                77.763ms asymm  9
11:  ae1.bbr02.eq01.wdc02.networklayer.com              159.878ms asymm 13
12:  ae7.bbr01.eq01.wdc02.networklayer.com              161.412ms
13:  ae0.bbr01.tl01.atl01.networklayer.com              174.714ms
14:  ae13.bbr02.eq01.dal03.networklayer.com              196.555ms asymm 13
15:  ae1.dar02.sr01.dal01.networklayer.com              199.267ms asymm 13
16:  po2.fcr02.sr04.dal01.networklayer.com              199.534ms asymm 14
17:  no reply
18:  no reply
19:  no reply
20:  no reply
21:  no reply
22:  no reply
23:  no reply
24:  no reply
25:  no reply
26:  no reply
bash-4.2$ curl -v linuxquestions.org
* About to connect() to linuxquestions.org port 80 (#0)
*  Trying 75.126.162.205...
* Connection timed out
* Failed connect to linuxquestions.org; Connection timed out
* Closing connection 0
curl: (7) Failed connect to linuxquestions.org; Connection timed out

Note that if 'linuxquestionsorg' shows up as 'linuxquestions.org', it's actually just the CGI changing everything :( It is supposed to be LQ. This does NOT affect the traceroute because it was run in a terminal not going through the proxy !

druuna 05-25-2013 11:23 AM

Does the same thing happen when you use www.linuxquestions.org (linuxquestions.org redirects to it)?

unSpawn 05-25-2013 11:37 AM

I'm not seeing any traces from around the world entering into po1. or po2.fcr02.sr04.dal01.networklayer.com and stalling after it, and LQ is one hop behind po1. or po2. IIRC so no idea what's going on...

H_TeXMeX_H 05-25-2013 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by druuna (Post 4958754)
Does the same thing happen when you use www.linuxquestions.org (linuxquestions.org redirects to it)?

So you mean I should post the output of it running through the proxy ? Ok:

Code:

bash-4.2$ tracepath www.linuxquestions.org/80
 1:  192.168.1.3                                          0.092ms pmtu 1500
 1:  192.168.1.1                                          0.671ms
 1:  192.168.1.1                                          0.632ms
 2:  92.83.60.218                                          0.929ms pmtu 1492
 2:  92.83.48.254                                        28.978ms
 3:  10.0.223.161                                        30.827ms
 4:  10.0.223.93                                          74.917ms asymm 12
 5:  10.0.223.213                                        74.189ms asymm 10
 6:  10.0.240.117                                        77.849ms asymm 10
 7:  10.0.200.46                                          78.377ms asymm  9
 8:  10.0.240.238                                        77.046ms
 9:  de-cix.frankfurt.fiord.ru                            84.659ms asymm 10
10:  msk-m9-b1-xe1-0-0.fiord.ru                          111.740ms asymm 12
11:  msk-k1-b2-xe5-1-0-vlan545.fiord.ru                  121.824ms asymm 13
12:  h1host-gw.fiord.ru                                  122.106ms asymm 13
13:  no reply
14:  h1net91-105-232-26.h1host.ru                        116.356ms reached
    Resume: pmtu 1492 hops 14 back 50
bash-4.2$ curl -v www.linuxquestions.org
* About to connect() to www.linuxquestions.org port 80 (#0)
*  Trying 91.105.232.26...
* Connected to www.linuxquestions.org (91.105.232.26) port 80 (#0)
> GET / HTTP/1.1
> User-Agent: curl/7.29.0
> Host: www.linuxquestions.org
> Accept: */*
>
< HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily
< Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
< Location: http://www.linuxquestions.org/home287/createSession?referer=http://www.linuxquestions.org/?null
< Content-Length: 0
< Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 17:30:44 GMT
<
* Connection #0 to host www.linuxquestions.org left intact

I don't know what networklayer has to do with this, but it might be something. One thing I should mention is that I use opendns as my DNS. Should I change it ?

I don't think it is the DNS, because I have tried the IP address of LQ and it doesn't work.

EDIT: Running 'whois linuxquestions,org' works fine. Nothing else works tho.

druuna 05-25-2013 01:23 PM

Using the official URL does seem to solve your problem. It would be nice to know what goes wrong with the URL that's been redirected.

I do notice this in the output posted (post #8):
Code:

* About to connect() to www.linuxquestions.org port 80 (#0)
*  Trying 91.105.232.26...
* Connected to www.linuxquestions.org (91.105.232.26) port 80 (#0)

That's not LQ's IP address, 75.126.162.205 is. This is shown in the output posted in post #5 (but no connection is made):
Code:

* About to connect() to linuxquestions.org port 80 (#0)
*  Trying 75.126.162.205...
* Connection timed out

I'm no expert, but it looks like a routing problem. DNS comes to mind (I do believe the mentioned proxy doesn't work when using the command line).

H_TeXMeX_H 05-25-2013 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by druuna (Post 4958812)
Using the official URL does seem to solve your problem. It would be nice to know what goes wrong with the URL that's been redirected.

I do notice this in the output posted (post #8):
Code:

* About to connect() to www.linuxquestions.org port 80 (#0)
*  Trying 91.105.232.26...
* Connected to www.linuxquestions.org (91.105.232.26) port 80 (#0)

That's not LQ's IP address, 75.126.162.205 is. This is shown in the output posted in post #5 (but no connection is made):
Code:

* About to connect() to linuxquestions.org port 80 (#0)
*  Trying 75.126.162.205...
* Connection timed out

I'm no expert, but it looks like a routing problem. DNS comes to mind (I do believe the mentioned proxy doesn't work when using the command line).

The 91.105.232.26 is going through the proxy, 75.126.162.205 is the real LQ address, however, it doesn't work either. Doesn't that rule out a DNS issue ?

I guess I will try to mess with the DNS settings on the router. However, all other sites are working just fine.

EDIT: Ok, I disabled opendns ... and it still doesn't work :(

I think it just may be a local (country) network issue. I guess I'll wait till tomorrow and see what happens. Maybe I'll call the ISP then.

jeremy 05-25-2013 01:50 PM

We recently adjusted some of our filters due to a spam attack and it looks like you may have been inadvertently impacted. You should be all set now. I apologize for the inconvenience.

--jeremy

Arcane 05-25-2013 02:43 PM

Do same for me, please, jeremy! I know i posted something(yugioh) that might be result of this but come-on really? It's freeware..thanks. Take IP from there since i'm using proxy atm.

jeremy 05-25-2013 02:55 PM

Arcane, all set.

--jeremy

H_TeXMeX_H 05-26-2013 02:12 AM

Ok, it works now, thanks. It seems to have blocked IPs in Eastern Europe ... indeed of place of spam.

H_TeXMeX_H 05-26-2013 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k3lt01 (Post 4958603)
Quote:

Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H
Is my IP banned or something ?

Is this paranoia or something?

No, actually I was right, and I figured it would be a mistake not something personal. If it were personal my account would have been banned.

Arcane 05-26-2013 03:30 AM

Phew! Thanks, jeremy! I also though i got banned or something but seriously what for then? Usually there is warning before ban or explanation provided why banned..oh well accidents happen to everyone. No harm done. :)

k3lt01 05-26-2013 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H (Post 4959057)
No, actually I was right, and I figured it would be a mistake not something personal. If it were personal my account would have been banned.

Not nit-picking or anything but on a forum I'm a moderator on I ban IPs as well as accounts while other mods do one or the other for reasons only known to themselves. The way I read your OP, which was my mistake, was that you thought your own personal IP was banned.

unSpawn 05-26-2013 04:48 AM

@all: please stop this whole ban notion paranoia thing.

At LQ banning an account is a last resort option. A member has to be warned first and contacted first to try and patch things up. Besides that, for a regular account to get banned (not talking advertising, etc, etc) a procedure must be followed which starts with contacting that member to first try and gauge / reason / fix things. Eventually, when nothing can be mended, LQ may ban a member by (sometimes temporarily) blocking the account. Yes, you read that right: not the IP address but the account. And once an account is locked a note is displayed. That note may even include an invitation to contact me, another moderator or Jeremy because a ban does not automagically mean that member won't be welcome back.

To recap:
0) We don't like banning LQ members. Really. We'd rather keep 'em.
1) A LQ member will know when they've crossed the line.
2) (rare cases aside) there can be no ban without prior warning.
3) When an account gets locked that member will know that will be the case well in advance.

I hope this insight allays any concerns you might have.
Should you wish to know more don't hesitate to contact me or any moderator by email.
Now please go back to whatever it is you were doing and
have fun.

Arcane 05-27-2013 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unSpawn (Post 4959109)
@all: please stop this whole ban notion paranoia thing.{...}

Alright but just in case something like that will happen make sure ban isn't forever and contacting authorities is not disabled otherwise we will never be able to fix accidents(just like this situation) or if someone else will hack into(proxy can also steal data) etc. Better be safe than sorry. :) Especially since today there are plenty of people who just wait for right moment to ruin others lives completely. :(

FeyFre 05-31-2013 11:03 AM

I have the same problem for few days(and now, used web-tunnel service to report here). Sitting behind corporative proxy, so firefox returns me "(110) Connection timed out".
Since I have not direct access to Proxy station, I cannot report here traceroute and ping results. http://www.whatsmyip.org/ reports me is 178 dot 94 dot 147 dot 229 (yes, I am in Eastern Europe)

jeremy 05-31-2013 11:09 AM

FeyFre, you should be all set. We apologize for the inconvenience.

--jeremy

brodo 06-03-2013 04:03 PM

I cannot reach LQ from Poznan, Poland.

Proxying works well, but it is not a solution . . .

jeremy 06-03-2013 04:08 PM

Please send me your IP address/netblock offline and we'll take a look.

--jeremy

brodo 06-04-2013 05:26 AM

Here is my traceroute to cnn.com.

<<<<<<<<
bash-4.2# traceroute cnn.com
traceroute to cnn.com (157.166.255.19), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 1.353 ms 1.629 ms 2.158 ms
2 poz-bg2.neo.tpnet.pl (83.1.4.48) 31.412 ms 34.678 ms 34.973 ms
3 poz-r3.tpnet.pl (80.50.156.225) 35.383 ms 37.749 ms 43.749 ms
4 war-r4.tpnet.pl (194.204.175.226) 46.883 ms 47.163 ms 47.418 ms
5 bundle-ether6.ffttr1.FrankfurtAmMain.opentransit.net (193.251.250.169) 73.516 ms 78.501 ms 74.731 ms
6 4.68.62.157 (4.68.62.157) 75.364 ms 57.223 ms 54.006 ms
7 vlan80.csw3.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.154.190) 148.907 ms vlan60.csw1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.154.62) 152.071 ms vlan70.csw2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.154.126) 156.878 ms
8 ae-91-91.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.140.13) 153.458 ms ae-71-71.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.140.5) 156.176 ms ae-91-91.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.140.13) 157.147 ms
9 ae-48-48.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.143.146) 158.256 ms 151.821 ms ae-46-46.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.143.138) 153.025 ms
10 ae-42-42.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.137.54) 150.218 ms ae-43-43.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.137.58) 152.280 ms ae-41-41.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.137.50) 158.919 ms
>>>>>>


Cheers

jeremy 06-04-2013 09:40 AM

You should be all set.

--jeremy

brodo 06-04-2013 04:03 PM

It works - thanks !

icefront 06-06-2013 08:37 PM

I have registered and logged in via anonymouse.org.
Via normal browsing from 188.27.16.41 the site doesn't works!
When I search via google, a lot of linuxquestions.org results are shown, it's annoying that the site doesn't load!
Why am I blocked?????

chicken76 06-14-2013 04:00 AM

Problem with Eastern Europe has not been completely solved yet?
I can't access 75.126.162.205 from a dozen hosts on different subnets and on two different providers.
Any chance of lifting all the filters for eastern europe? Or are the filters going to be lifted only upon request and only for individual IPs/subnets?

icefront 06-14-2013 06:43 AM

Not solved
 
Although this thread is marked as solved, it isn't...
Accessing this site worked for several days, now it's still blocked.

Dear admins, please understand, blocking half of the world isn't a solution to kick several spammers. There are intelligent anti-spam solutions instead of brute blocking.

Since my IP is dynamic, next week I'll be blocked again if you unblock only a single IP address.

BTW I'm posting again via a proxy...

jeremy 06-14-2013 08:02 AM

We've unblocked many subnets, but some do remain blocked. If you send us the IP or netblock we'll evaluate each one individually and make a decision from there.

--jeremy

jeremy 06-14-2013 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icefront (Post 4971659)
Although this thread is marked as solved, it isn't...
Accessing this site worked for several days, now it's still blocked.

Dear admins, please understand, blocking half of the world isn't a solution to kick several spammers. There are intelligent anti-spam solutions instead of brute blocking.

Since my IP is dynamic, next week I'll be blocked again if you unblock only a single IP address.

FWIW, we don't indiscriminately block half the world. The number of IP blocks we have in place is far less than 1% of the IP space (and unblocks are almost always done at the netblock and not IP level).

--jeremy

chicken76 06-14-2013 02:19 PM

Affected subnets:
95.76.32.0/22
86.127.208.0/21

jeremy 06-15-2013 08:36 AM

chicken76, you should be all set.

--jeremy

chicken76 06-16-2013 02:20 PM

Indeed. Thank you.

kite 06-17-2013 04:15 AM

Jeremy, sadly I am blocked by LQ:

traceroute linuxquestions.org
traceroute to linuxquestions.org (75.126.162.205), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1) 1.544 ms 1.100 ms 1.141 ms
2 183.38.88.1 (183.38.88.1) 27.221 ms 26.340 ms 792.530 ms
3 119.136.1.85 (119.136.1.85) 24.671 ms 45.729 ms 24.810 ms
4 121.15.179.94 (121.15.179.94) 25.470 ms 27.250 ms 24.068 ms
5 121.34.242.234 (121.34.242.234) 43.872 ms 27.370 ms 27.434 ms
6 202.97.33.238 (202.97.33.238) 28.123 ms 32.626 ms 166.234 ms
7 202.97.60.146 (202.97.60.146) 27.132 ms 28.780 ms 27.499 ms
8 202.97.58.230 (202.97.58.230) 201.710 ms 201.444 ms 238.237 ms
9 202.97.50.34 (202.97.50.34) 199.869 ms 197.014 ms 204.046 ms
10 xe-5-3-2.edge3.losangeles1.level3.net (4.71.136.109) 413.271 ms 198.743 ms 198.928 ms
11 ae-4-90.edge1.losangeles6.level3.net (4.69.144.208) 196.186 ms
ae-3-80.edge1.losangeles6.level3.net (4.69.144.144) 187.063 ms 385.991 ms
12 te2-5.bbr01.cs01.lax01.networklayer.com (4.26.0.70) 185.496 ms * *
13 ae7.bbr01.cs01.lax01.networklayer.com (173.192.18.166) 203.209 ms * 327.763 ms
14 ae19.bbr01.eq01.dal03.networklayer.com (173.192.18.140) 307.216 ms 307.017 ms 228.832 ms
15 ae0.dar01.sr01.dal01.networklayer.com (173.192.18.211) 226.973 ms
ae0.dar02.sr01.dal01.networklayer.com (173.192.18.253) 219.280 ms 220.052 ms
16 po2.fcr02.sr04.dal01.networklayer.com (66.228.118.182) 332.935 ms 423.559 ms
po1.fcr02.sr04.dal01.networklayer.com (66.228.118.178) 710.695 ms
17 * * *
18 * * *
19 * * *
20 * * *

jeremy 06-17-2013 12:14 PM

kite, you should be all set.

--jeremy

tomtomjkw 06-21-2013 01:12 AM

Hi Jeremy, I'd like to ask for the same:

Quote:

traceroute to linuxquestions.org (75.126.162.205), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 11.1.5.1 (11.1.5.1) 0.317 ms 0.398 ms 0.465 ms
2 Jaworzno-bras2.inetia.pl (195.114.190.151) 13.782 ms 13.873 ms 16.496 ms
3 81.210.127.68 (81.210.127.68) 22.179 ms 22.368 ms 22.536 ms
4 xe-5-3-1.fra61.ip4.tinet.net (141.136.97.105) 33.688 ms 34.338 ms 35.524 ms
5 as1299.ip4.tinet.net (77.67.95.182) 38.983 ms as1299.ip4.tinet.net (77.67.67.194) 39.935 ms as1299.ip4.tinet.net (77.67.82.242) 40.899 ms
6 ffm-bb1-link.telia.net (80.91.251.249) 42.373 ms 29.964 ms 30.893 ms
7 ash-bb3-link.telia.net (213.155.135.57) 138.225 ms ash-bb3-link.telia.net (80.91.246.58) 139.957 ms 140.449 ms
8 ash-b1-link.telia.net (80.91.248.157) 140.993 ms ash-b1-link.telia.net (80.91.248.163) 142.182 ms ash-b1-link.telia.net (80.91.248.157) 143.081 ms
9 xe-3-0-1.bbr01.eq01.wdc02.networklayer.com (213.248.78.130) 144.337 ms 145.022 ms 146.211 ms
10 * * *
11 ae13.bbr02.eq01.dal03.networklayer.com (173.192.18.134) 180.998 ms 183.274 ms 182.976 ms
12 ae1.dar01.sr01.dal01.networklayer.com (173.192.18.255) 183.897 ms ae1.dar02.sr01.dal01.networklayer.com (173.192.18.213) 155.856 ms 189.974 ms
13 po1.fcr02.sr04.dal01.networklayer.com (66.228.118.178) 157.052 ms ae7.dar02.sr01.dal01.networklayer.com (66.228.118.238) 158.484 ms 189.684 ms
14 * * *
15 * * *

jeremy 06-21-2013 09:00 AM

tomtomjkw,

We are not blocking any IP in that path.

--jeremy

tomtomjkw 06-21-2013 01:56 PM

So there must have been someone else blocking me until today morning. Works now, thanks anyway.

bormant 07-05-2013 11:14 AM

Hi Jeremy, I'd like to ask for unblock x.x.x.x

jeremy 07-05-2013 11:17 AM

All set.

--jeremy

BratPit 07-08-2013 03:12 AM

Hi

I have got the same problem.I connect LQ through proxy.
Here in Poland /Orange/ I get different IP every 24 hours from the pool 79.163.64.0 - 79.163.127.255.
HTTP and Ping does not work.
Traceroute looks like this:

Code:

[10:08:52 --> pi in retrieve.utility]$ traceroute linuxquestions.org
traceroute to linuxquestions.org (75.126.162.205), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  3.814 ms  4.779 ms  8.756 ms
 2  public32767.xdsl.centertel.pl (79.163.127.255)  37.739 ms  48.718 ms  49.700 ms
 3  public32517.xdsl.centertel.pl (79.163.127.5)  44.685 ms  46.668 ms  50.649 ms
 4  80.50.133.5 (80.50.133.5)  53.636 ms  55.615 ms  57.595 ms
 5  war-r3.tpnet.pl (195.117.0.185)  64.588 ms  65.568 ms  68.548 ms
 6  war-b2-link.telia.net (213.248.89.85)  86.527 ms  40.897 ms  40.878 ms
 7  hbg-bb2-link.telia.net (80.91.247.134)  47.829 ms  49.809 ms hbg-bb2-link.telia.net (80.91.251.217)  52.794 ms
 8  ash-bb4-link.telia.net (213.155.131.249)  146.785 ms ash-bb4-link.telia.net (213.155.131.251)  149.759 ms  152.743 ms
 9  ash-b1-link.telia.net (213.155.130.3)  157.724 ms  139.897 ms ash-b1-link.telia.net (213.155.136.39)  138.872 ms
10  xe-3-0-1.bbr01.eq01.wdc02.networklayer.com (213.248.78.130)  152.853 ms  156.556 ms  157.810 ms
11  ae0.bbr01.tl01.atl01.networklayer.com (173.192.18.153)  181.802 ms  185.780 ms  187.750 ms
12  ae13.bbr02.eq01.dal03.networklayer.com (173.192.18.134)  169.879 ms  175.847 ms *
13  ae1.dar02.sr01.dal01.networklayer.com (173.192.18.213)  176.797 ms ae1.dar01.sr01.dal01.networklayer.com (173.192.18.255)  180.782 ms  182.761 ms
14  po1.fcr02.sr04.dal01.networklayer.com (66.228.118.178)  191.751 ms  192.727 ms ae0.dar01.sr01.dal01.networklayer.com (173.192.18.211)  165.900 ms
15  po1.fcr02.sr04.dal01.networklayer.com (66.228.118.178)  179.855 ms *  180.813 ms
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jeremy 07-08-2013 09:30 AM

BratPit, all set.

--jeremy


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