Is it really true ?

Erm.. Is what really true?

No, it's a figment of my imagination. None of you really exist.

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It's the Matrix

I'm sorry but yes it is. The Voight empathy test never fails.

Would that be the Jon Voight empathy test, or some other one?

Time to rent "Blade Runner" again

PS:
Did you ever notice that the helicopter shots at the end of the original (butchered, non-director's cut) version were actually out-takes from Stanley Kubrick's "The Shining"?

PS:
Has anybody talked Jeremy into restoring "Thanks" yet?

Believe it or not, that viewpoint is (or at least, was) shared by others.

But seriously, what's this thread supposed to be about? I smell spam...

Hmm, two oddities in one post, paulsm4!

Odd #1 is that you should mention Blade Runner, as the roommate and I were just talking about it the other day - and it's been SOOO long since I've seen it, I wouldn't know it to trip over it now. She thinks Wesley Snipes was in that; doesn't sound right to me, but who knows... I'll hafta look that up, and want to see it again but it's never in the bargain bin. Oh, was Jon Voight in Blade Runner?

Odd #2 is though I've seen 'The Shining' a number of times, I didn't know Stanley Kubric had anything to do with it - only that it's a Stephen King story (I've read the book too) unless we're talking about a different Shining. Matter of fact, I don't remember helicopters in The Shining either.. My memory is really getting bad.

P.S. Methinks this thread will get moved to General - or worse :/

Hi, Sasha -

The "Voight Empathy Test" is from Blade Runner: it's how they could distinguish between a "replicant" and a "genuine human". Of course, one of the points of the movie (and the novella it was based on) is that the replicants had more of a "soul" than the humans who used them and hunted them down.

Blade Runner was a troubled production, and the studio took the final cut away from the director, Ridley Scott, at the last moment. They slapped on narration (the studio bosses didn't think the audience would "understand" the movie otherwise), and a "happy ending" (where Harrison Ford's and Sean Young's characters "escaped", presumably to live happily ever after). The "director's cut" (issued about 10 years later, after Ridley Scott established himself as a director with "clout" and Blade Runner established itself as a masterpiece), did away with both of these.

Anyway, the opening credits of Stanley Kubrick's "The Shining" (another "troubled production", and another "masterpiece") consisted of helicopter shots of the Rocky Mountains. Kubrick used about two minutes; the actual footage consisted of ten or twenty hours. The original cut of Blade Runner inserted some of this footage for the "Happy Ending".

No, neither Wesley Snipes nor Jon Voight were in Blade Runner.

And yes, Stanley Kubrick's "The Shining" was based on the Stephen King book. Stephen King hated it, and later made a TV miniseries based on his "original vision". The TV Miniseries was called "Stephen King's 'The Shining'", and starred Steven Weber (one of the brothers in "Wings").

Enough trivia for one posting

'Hope I didn't bore you too much

PS:
If you watch the DVD version of "The Shining", you can actually see the shadow of the helicopter in the bottom of the frame for a few moments. It wasn't in the film version (it was matted out), and I don't know if you can see it any any non-U.S. DVD's of the film.

If you are talking about LQ, yes it is. You are not dreaming. And someone from windows will wonder how come without much money Linux folks can have better forums than you guys. But its true.

Just for clarity, the "Voight Empathy Test" is actually the "Voight-Kampff Empathy Test". Everyone should read the original novel "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep", not because it's any better than the excellent film, but because it fleshes out the world and the characters better, particularly the scene in the book (which isn't in the film) which takes place in the other Blade Runner HQ.

Alright, I'm clueless about that original post. For just what purpose was this thread created?

For what I hope are obvious reasons, I'm closing this thread.

--jeremy