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Old 10-15-2012, 01:36 PM   #16
Celyr
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Most of users don't know how to user reputiation, and yet you want to add another button agree\disagree.
I think it will just led to more confusion. A better approach would be to change the button name from "useful" to "point this as the solution" so maybe users will use it in the right way
 
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:41 PM   #17
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If it isn't broke, don't fix it. This just sounds like a couple of angry people crying over nothing.

/opinion

Last edited by fewt; 10-15-2012 at 02:35 PM.
 
Old 10-16-2012, 08:27 AM   #18
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What I would really like (don't know whether others need it) is a way to privately put a negative mark on another forum member, that only I will see, but which will warn me next time that person posts a question I might be tempted to answer.

I'm not good with names, and tend to look at each new thread as new and I fail to take into account what I might have discovered in someone's previous threads.

Someone (don't need to say who publicly) has posted multiple questions, then generally acted uninterested in the content of the replies (repeating the question without responding to reply content, or dropping the thread, or most recently posting "never mind").

When I take the trouble to try to help with some technical problem, I'd prefer to do so for someone who will look at the reply.
 
Old 10-16-2012, 08:31 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by johnsfine View Post
What I would really like (don't know whether others need it) is a way to privately put a negative mark on another forum member, that only I will see, but which will warn me next time that person posts a question I might be tempted to answer.

I'm not good with names, and tend to look at each new thread as new and I fail to take into account what I might have discovered in someone's previous threads.

Someone (don't need to say who publicly) has posted multiple questions, then generally acted uninterested in the content of the replies (repeating the question without responding to reply content, or dropping the thread, or most recently posting "never mind").

When I take the trouble to try to help with some technical problem, I'd prefer to do so for someone who will look at the reply.
It's not exactly what you are after but once you've identified a repetead offender, place them on the ignore list..
 
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Old 10-17-2012, 02:44 AM   #20
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It's not exactly what you are after but once you've identified a repetead offender, place them on the ignore list..
That's fine but sometimes some people, who really annoy the absolute living daylights out of me 99.9% of the time, actually post something that is helpful.
 
Old 10-17-2012, 09:41 AM   #21
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Originally Posted by johnsfine View Post
What I would really like (don't know whether others need it) is a way to privately put a negative mark on another forum member, that only I will see, but which will warn me next time that person posts a question I might be tempted to answer.
If you don't mind having the marks confined to a single browser that is pretty easy to accomplish with GreaseMonkey:

Code:
// ==UserScript==
// @name Mark Users
// @namespace http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/user/ntubski-218752/
// @description Privately put a mark on another forum member
// @version 1.0
//
// @match *://www.linuxquestions.org/*
// ==/UserScript==
//
// To mark a user, open about:config and add a new string setting called
// greasemonkey.scriptvals.http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/user/ntubski-218752//Mark Users.<USERNAME>
// with a url to the image of the mark.



var posters = document.evaluate(
    "/html/body//div[@id='posts']//a[@class='bigusername']/text()",
    document,     // context node
    null,         // namespace resolver
    XPathResult.UNORDERED_NODE_SNAPSHOT_TYPE,
    null          // result (null means create new)
);

for (var i = 0; i < posters.snapshotLength; i++) {
    var poster = posters.snapshotItem(i);
    var mark = GM_getValue(poster.textContent);
    if (mark) {
        var markNode = document.createElement("img");
        markNode.setAttribute("src", mark);
        poster.parentNode.appendChild(markNode);
    }
}
I attached a screenshot using the following settings:
Code:
greasemonkey.scriptvals.http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/user/ntubski-218752//Mark Users.fewt
 = https://lqo-thequestionsnetw.netdna-ssl.com/questions/images/smilies/twocents.gif

greasemonkey.scriptvals.http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/user/ntubski-218752//Mark Users.johnsfine
 = https://lqo-thequestionsnetw.netdna-ssl.com/questions/images/smilies/smile.gif
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File Type: png mark-user1.png (15.5 KB, 14 views)
 
Old 10-17-2012, 10:18 AM   #22
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I agree that the two should be separated, because they are different.

If people wanted, you could implement a agree/disagree and a helpful/not-helpful. Then it would make more sense and it would be clearer ... but it may be more complicated to implement.
I thought the general idea was 'agree' => 'click the "Rep" link, giving reputation without marking the post as helpful' while 'helpful' => 'Mark post as helpful', which is what I try to stick to; but I guess this will vary from user to user.
 
Old 10-17-2012, 10:32 AM   #23
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Originally Posted by k3lt01 View Post
That's fine but sometimes some people, who really annoy the absolute living daylights out of me 99.9% of the time, actually post something that is helpful.
I know and one can always think of some scenario that a solution does not cover. The truth is there is no solution that will please everyone and implementing some extremely elaborate reputation system that's going to cover every possible scenario is just not feasible. Just my 5 bitcoins.
 
Old 10-17-2012, 11:04 AM   #24
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Originally Posted by Snark1994 View Post
I thought the general idea was 'agree' => 'click the "Rep" link, giving reputation without marking the post as helpful' while 'helpful' => 'Mark post as helpful', which is what I try to stick to; but I guess this will vary from user to user.
Well, they both link to the same system.

I was thinking about two separate scales. There would a "helpfulness" scale and a "controversy" scale. Are you helpful and do people agree with you.

I know people don't agree with me, and I don't want this to affect my helpfulness rating.
 
Old 10-17-2012, 11:21 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by johnsfine View Post
I(..) tend to look at each new thread as new (..)
Ah, the Zen state of mind ;-p

Sure I'd rather see people show they're active in our community (discuss things properly, share information actively and anything else that triggers the satisfaction factor) but regardless of that please note any constructive answer (not "search LQ" or LMGTFY-like one-liners) you give contributes to LQ as a knowledge base. Seeing it as an overarching goal may help you and others step over some of the reservations you might have. Also note there's no rule or by-law against nudging an OP know via email or PM or in the thread towards paying attention and responding to what was written.
 
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