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Old 06-27-2004, 12:28 AM   #1
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Hardware Compatibility List suggestion


Many people just want to buy a computer that is pre-assembled. Some don't know how or feel like putting one together, but often it is cheaper...depending on what kind of computer. For me buying a Compaq Presario S6000CL was cheaper then putting one together, and money can be tight at times. So maybe adding a thread in the Hardware Compatibility List about preassembled computers that work well with Linux, or mostly, or not at all and have people explain any problems they have had, maybe even how they solved it. What I mean is if someone where to buy a computer would SUSE work well with it, or Mandrake. Would they recognize the hardware right off or would it take some work. This would help those who are looking for a cost effective new computer, but not sure where to start. Many just find it less confusing to just buy one with XP and leave it at that. Plus it would help those who don't mind the work, if needed, to get a linux system up and running but need to watch what they spend.


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Old 06-27-2004, 08:31 AM   #2
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The problems I can see with this is that manfacturers may change the components that make up "System X" so although you bought it with a nice compatible nVidia graphics card it may come with an ATI by the time someone else tries to buy it. Many manufacturers like Dell also allow many of the components to be configured so your system may not come with a wireless card but the next person may want one.

Even if you are buying a PC you can still check the core components that are likely to have compatability problems agains the HCL.
 
Old 06-27-2004, 11:31 PM   #3
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Yes thats true. But in some cases, like Wal_mart or Sams Club, Dell, etc. they will sell the basic computer. Like my Compaq S6000CL was not the only one they will selling. Wal-Mart will sell computers, Like E-machines, that have the same exsact set up. Even Dells will have the same set up for the basic one, with the option to add more or upgrade components.

My computer has almost the same exact set up as My girlfriends HP Pavilion 533w. The difference is about one year. They both have the same hard ware, AC97 intergrated sound, VIA Graphics, etc. But I can only get Mandrake to install the easiest on hers.

A lot of poeple will buy certain computers pre-assymbled at places like Wal-Mart, Dell and so on. Many people are still lost when it comes to what is exactly in their computer. That part of the Linux learning process could come later. But if they buy a certain computer, like an HP Pavilion 533w, it works great with Mandrake 10.0 but needs to have more set up by the user with SuSE 9.1 I think that would help. People are use to buying a computer and having things work, MSWin computers work right off.

On a thread like that people could explain what computer they bought, if it was pre-assembled, if anything extra was added or upgraded and they could also put in the hardware that is in their computer, wether it came with it or was added later. This will also help them know what hardware works better with their computer.

The wrong way to put something in the thread is this: Mandrake works great with a Compaq.

The right way would be:

Mandrake 10.0 Official works great with a Compaq Presario S6000CL Pre-assembled Computer built in December 2003, bought in February 2004 at Sams Club.

80GB ultra DMA Western Digital Hard drive, Pheonix Award Winning Bios version(lol, I don't have that info with me right now, I am not home, but I think you know what I mean,)AMD Athlon XP 2800 Processor, 512MB of RAM, AC'97 Intergrated sound.....etc, etc, etc.

If someone is interested in a new computer they know that a Compaq Presario S6000CL works good with Mandrake 10.0 Official, they will also have a list of the hardware that comes with it and they can check it with the computer they are looking at and see if it is the same. If they are unsure they can come back to LQ and ask questions or look at the hardware list for specific info. This wil also make them aware more to ask places like Dell for a list of their Hardware.

Unfortunatly places Like Sams Club, Wal_mart, K-Mart, etc, are clueless, that is when it is up to the buyer to find out before hand. Maybe have the phone numbers of these places, Dell, Compaq, HP, Gateway, IBM and so on in a post there. That way people can have easy access to these numbers and can call for specific information. They can also explain to these companies that they want Linux, but these companies will not know what is compatible with Linux, they will know what the hardware is with some pushing, if they don't then maybe the computer should be bought some place else. But these companies will be getting more phone calls from Linux interested people, maybe that will get them to act a little more with that. I mean they have Desktops in Thailand and India with Linux pre-installed, but IBM will only ship Desktop PC's with XP over here in the USA.



Just an Idea.



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Last edited by webwolf70; 06-27-2004 at 11:33 PM.
 
Old 07-28-2004, 09:50 PM   #4
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webwolf70 & D_R; good points, just visited suse site and what i saw was dismall, very sparse with hardware (almost all kind). agree with D.R. in that
mfg,s will only place economical devices in there machines which then buyer beware. unless buyer checks with os and hcl to make sure its compatible with linux(any distro). that is some thing LQO already has in place. more than problably others also. ie; RH,'D',Libran't ,etc.
 
  


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