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Old 01-12-2012, 09:46 AM   #31
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I suggest...
  • "Hey, I'm a Christian, too." But that does not mean that I want to read about Christianity in a forum that is intended to be about Linux questions. And, in a more general sense, I just might want to keep my religious opinions to myself ("pray in secret" ...) and not suffer the bandwidth consumption of those who don't happen to feel the way that I do. A place has been set aside specifically to "blow off steam," and 99.% of the time I choose to completely ignore that place. That doesn't mean that "my biscuits are burnin'," nor that they are about to.
  • Within a "general discussion" area, there are lots of things to talk about. ("Microsoft sux," for instance.) ) Once again, bandwidth should be parceled-out fairly.
  • "If we didn't shove the religious threads into one pocket, is it likely that they would otherwise consume a dis-proportionate number of new topics?" I think that it would be fairly impossible to answer that question in the negative. Religious feelings, if strongly held, tend not only to be extremely contentious but also extremely prolific. They would create much more conversation than the recently-announced fact that Bill Gates has just offered Linus Torvalds $12 billion dollars to buy up all the rights to Linux. ( ...)
Opinions about religious expression do differ, even among subscribers to any particular religion. The exercise of the prerogatives of a moderator (note: I am not one) should not be construed as being "for," nor "against," religion or religious expression. That's just not the case.

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Old 01-12-2012, 10:43 AM   #32
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At one time, we didn't allow religion threads/posts at all. The megathread is a pleasant medium for pleasantly medium people to discuss religion pleasantly (and mediumly). As has been stated previously, LQ really isn't the place to discuss religious issues - there are numerous other blogs and sites and bricks and mortar places to do this. Usually, megathreads are cleaned up when they get too huge - this used to be dictated, IIRC, by the size of the thread that the database could handle. Now it's dictated by circular arguments and the OCD of the moderator team.

To summarise: LQ not for religion, because we're kind we allow a single large thread (and I may close the existing one and open a new one soon), have fun.
 
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:28 AM   #33
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Thanks for paying me any mind Jeremy.
I understand. And my biggest benefit from these forums is in fact the technical help I have at times received here. Learning about Linux-related stuff is of utmost importance to me--in particular web-programming, but I have to admit and beg you understand, I can't help but be more conversant in the eternal Christ. That's just me. If there's a general forum that I'm going to "cool off" at, Christ is going to have to dominate my conversation there.
Do you really not understand what people are telling you?

If you want to blather on about ANYTHING YOU WANT, go to the "Social Groups" section, create a group, and have a ball. General isn't the place to do it, in my opinion. Jeremy and the other moderators allow you to continue, but with the attitude you stated above, I'd certainly not. You admit coming here, then say that christ will 'have to dominate my conversation'. No, it doesn't HAVE TO...if you feel like it must, then I will state again that YOU SHOULD GO TO A DIFFERENT WEBSITE WHERE SUCH TOPICS ARE ENCOURAGED. Folks DO NOT COME HERE for such topics, and don't care to have them crammed down their throats by 'christians' like you. Using Firefox? Press CTRL-T...open another tab alongside LinuxQuestions, and go to whatever christian website you want. Feel like 'cooling off'??? Click that tab, and and enjoy.
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Does this mean you'll consider letting at least another mega-thread run with a title besides the one we have (which is a deterent at least to me)--maybe just "The Faith & Religion Thread"?
They've already considered..it's called (again), the "Social Groups" link, upper-right main menu box. Click it and have fun.
 
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Old 01-12-2012, 01:29 PM   #34
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They've already considered..it's called (again), the "Social Groups" link, upper-right main menu box. Click it and have fun.
Exactly what I suggested in post #2 of this thread.
 
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Old 01-12-2012, 01:53 PM   #35
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Here you are, blue.
 
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Old 01-12-2012, 02:07 PM   #36
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I don't think Blue would enjoy being there as he'd be preaching to the choir. After all, we, blasphemers are unlikely to "troll" that social group. It'd be immoral.
 
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Old 01-12-2012, 05:17 PM   #37
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I don't think Blue would enjoy being there as he'd be preaching to the choir. After all, we, blasphemers are unlikely to "troll" that social group. It'd be immoral.
Agreed, especially based on his posts here, and the comment he made on his own public profile, in response to a visitor message:
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On the other hand, if more folks like you (assuming you're Christian) would back me up, now we have more leverage. It's not just me, facing them. David Wilkerson went into the gagster community all alone, but came to depend on hard-won support from members of the community he wanted to win. If you keep silent, eventually someone like you, will approach me again, and at some point, just maybe, through unity of Christ, one, two or who knows how many souls might be won--right here
...bluegospel isn't interested in keeping on topic, or doing anything other than cramming beliefs onto the forums, regardless of who is offended, asks him to stop, etc. The same tactic that's used by lots of other 'christians' like him...if someone complains, well, they're just anti-god/immoral/trying to keep them silent. But then they're the same group who will complain about other 'immoral' things they don't like, and expect everyone to agree with them, and do as they wish. If not, repeat the cycle....

I see it ALL the time where I live, and often (amazingly) on subway's in NYC when I go up to visit family. As soon as the doors shut, the bible comes out and they start 'testifying' at the top of their lungs.
 
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Old 01-13-2012, 10:42 AM   #38
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On the other hand, if more folks like you (assuming you're Christian) would back me up, now we have more leverage. It's not just me, facing them. David Wilkerson went into the gagster community all alone, but came to depend on hard-won support from members of the community he wanted to win. If you keep silent, eventually someone like you, will approach me again, and at some point, just maybe, through unity of Christ, one, two or who knows how many souls might be won--right here
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I see it ALL the time where I live, and often (amazingly) on subway's in NYC when I go up to visit family. As soon as the doors shut, the bible comes out and they start 'testifying' at the top of their lungs.
It's amazing how they fail to see what a big disservice they do to their cause.
 
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Old 01-13-2012, 11:42 AM   #39
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It's amazing how they fail to see what a big disservice they do to their cause.
Yep...but they rarely see it that way. Most like to say "See?? I'm witnessing every day to non-believers!! I go to church 24/7!!", but don't walk the walk. When asked if they're actually out in the community helping folks, or donating money to ANYTHING aside from the church, it's usually a big "No".

There's a church here in town that's pretty large. They've got a HUGE campus, swimming pools/fitness centers, two huge buses (think Greyhound types), etc., etc. Once or twice a year they go deliver food to some shelters here in town, and won't ever do it unless the local news comes and films them, doing their 'good christian work'. They were very absent during the tornadoes last year, but strangely had a huge turnout to clean up the church grounds. Guess the folks who lost everything didn't really matter....
 
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Old 01-13-2012, 08:02 PM   #40
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Well I belong to two Atheist forums, being quite anti-religious

cheers
 
Old 01-13-2012, 09:41 PM   #41
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No offense, but that's more like segregation
then let it be segregation .As an Atheist i DO NOT want to see it plastered all over the place
put it this way -- an EXAMPLE ( you in MY shoes )

you a Christian ( a minority ) have to see , hear, and in your countries OATH there is a MUSLIM DECREE
there is reference to Islam ALL OVER THE PLACE

so much so that you are SICK AND TIRED of it

just HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ????


this is how the NON Christian's feel ALL THE TIME with all the Christian stuff shoved in OUR faces .

As an Atheist there are times I want to start a " non-jehad " against Christian's

As an observer the Islamic community is a LOT nicer than the Christian community

mind you it is only the extreme left and right on BOTH sides that make the most noise

The middle ground is normally very quiet
 
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Old 01-13-2012, 10:22 PM   #42
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then let it be segregation .As an Atheist i DO NOT want to see it plastered all over the place
put it this way -- an EXAMPLE ( you in MY shoes )

you a Christian ( a minority ) have to see , hear, and in your countries OATH there is a MUSLIM DECREE
there is reference to Islam ALL OVER THE PLACE

so much so that you are SICK AND TIRED of it

just HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ????


this is how the NON Christian's feel ALL THE TIME with all the Christian stuff shoved in OUR faces .

As an Atheist there are times I want to start a " non-jehad " against Christian's

As an observer the Islamic community is a LOT nicer than the Christian community

mind you it is only the extreme left and right on BOTH sides that make the most noise

The middle ground is normally very quiet
Amen
 
Old 01-13-2012, 10:48 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by John VV View Post
then let it be segregation .As an Atheist i DO NOT want to see it plastered all over the place
put it this way -- an EXAMPLE ( you in MY shoes )

you a Christian ( a minority ) have to see , hear, and in your countries OATH there is a MUSLIM DECREE
there is reference to Islam ALL OVER THE PLACE

so much so that you are SICK AND TIRED of it

just HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ????


this is how the NON Christian's feel ALL THE TIME with all the Christian stuff shoved in OUR faces .

As an Atheist there are times I want to start a " non-jehad " against Christian's

As an observer the Islamic community is a LOT nicer than the Christian community

mind you it is only the extreme left and right on BOTH sides that make the most noise

The middle ground is normally very quiet
Blue hasn't posted in this thread for 2 days, who is now the group continuing this childish (on both sides) discussion? Sorry boys you all need to pull your heads in and grow up, this is Linux Questions not a religion/anti-religion forum. You have all said your piece don't you think or are you going to continue looking like your claiming the higher ground when Blue himself has shut up days ago?
 
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[Sorry, wrong thread]

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Old 01-13-2012, 11:10 PM   #45
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Blue hasn't posted in this thread for 2 days, who is now the group continuing this childish (on both sides) discussion? Sorry boys you all need to pull your heads in and grow up, this is Linux Questions not a religion/anti-religion forum. You have all said your piece don't you think or are you going to continue looking like your claiming the higher ground when Blue himself has shut up days ago?
While I agree that we (I'm to blame) have gone well off-topic now, Blue has a smart tendency to keep silent for a number of posts until something more convenient (to him) comes up.

Let's keep it open and see if Blue replies.
 
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