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Old 06-18-2007, 05:30 AM   #1
a.jan
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Hola a todos + Laptop question


Hello everybody,

This is Alex, from Spain.

I just got in the Linux world a bit my accident: my Windows decided that didn't want to work anymore, I had an Ubunu CD around, tried and loved it. But what really hooked me was not so much the program itself (also) but the community spirit that there is around Linux (well, maybe I'm romantisising it too much but from a newbie point of view it sounds great!)

I discovered this Forum as I was looking for info about a good laptop to run Linux (my previous laptop fell to the floor and now the screen doesn't work...) as I want to stick to open source from now on. And now I'm still searching, but not for a good laptop for Linux but for a good laptop, period! And it seems it's not an easy task; apparently Thinkpads use to be very good but not anymore (since Lenovo took over and cut on the service and quality) and the rest (except maybe Sony but that apparently gives more problems with Linux than a thinkpad) have never been that reliable. Do we (as a guy in a shop was trying to convince me) have to accept that computers will last 3-4 years maximum? Is there not a brand that makes solid, stable and built to last laptops? Shall I just try to get a pre-lenovo IBM to have a good computer even if I have to give up on the latest technology? If anyone feels like giving me his/her opinion it would be of great help

Well, it's a pleasure to be here and I hope I can contribute (whenever I have enough knowledge to do so!) as much as I can benefit from the help of the members.

Salud y alegria para todos

Alex
 
Old 06-18-2007, 06:09 AM   #2
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Linux on Laptops

Have a look in the Laptops section here on LinuxQuestions.

I have 2 Linux laptops myself and I built one for my mother.

1/ 2 year old Acer TravelMate 23xx with Intel 855 graphics & IPN2220 wifi. The main OS is Suse 10.2 and it has worked for 6 months with no problems. Before that I used Kubuntu 6 with no real problems but changed to Suse because it has more tools for configuration. Kubuntu is very good for a beginner, but on a laptop it can be harder to get the wifi & LCD display correct.

2/ My mum's 6 month old Dell Inspiron 1300 with Intel 915 graphics & Broadcom bcm4138 wifi. This is Suse 10.1 and she has had no problems, though she only uses it for e-mail and a bit of internet surfing. Only the wifi & display resolution were a problem and that was not difficult to fix.

3/ Very old (8 years!) Compaq Presario 2406 with Intel graphics. This has Kubuntu 6.04 at present, but I think I might try DamnSmallLinux instead. No wifi, and a Lucent softmodem which was difficult to get working. I network it with a Kingston KNE PC28T card which worked straight off.


The only difficult part of any of the installation's I have done is getting the wireless to work, and sometimes the display resolution, but the fixes are not really hard. Most things work straight off. USB keyboards and mice just work when you plug them in, though with a bit of tweaking you can make them better. Most displays work straight off, though I have had problems with widescreen (1280x800) laptops.

Apart from Kubuntu/Ubuntu, I have tried Fedora Core 6 which is good, but not as nice on a laptop, and recently I have been looking at PCLinuxOS 2007. This looks like it might be better for laptops than Suse, as it detected the screen and wireless on my Acer, installed any additional drivers and did the configuration all from the installer. It should be much easier to get started.

One bit of advice I will give you is to download GParted and make yourself a Live CD. Use this for partitioning and as a rescue disk. It handles NTFS well, and I've used it to partition and resize with Windows 2000 Pro & XP.
 
Old 06-18-2007, 06:10 AM   #3
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I don't think that the quality of Lenova has slipped that much, but the customer support has. The profit margins are so slim that a couple customer support calls can wipe out the profit so call centers are outsourced to save money. If you really want a very durable laptop, you might try using google to search for "mil spec laptop".
 
Old 06-19-2007, 03:40 AM   #4
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Hi there!

Thanks a lot for your input!

Sadiq, that's great info, I was not really sure which distro I was going to use and now at least I have a starting point. Have never heard of the PCLinuxOX 2007 but it certainly looks like something I want to try! (anything that makes life a bit more simple).

As for the thinkpads I've read comments from Thinkpad users who are outraged at the problems they are having with their new lenovo thinkpads, including a lot of "never again". There are also great feedbacks on the computers themselves but I'm not sure I want to take the risk, specially knowing that if there's any problem it could take months to solve... Ay ay ay, what a dilema, becasue if they work properly they should be great computers...

I checked the Getac computers and they look awesome, the problem is I cannot check them up in person. But it could certainly be a solution if the inside is built as soundly as the outside. I will search more into it.

Well, the search continues, I've even be tempted to get a MacBook from Apple (which I've heard are quite reliable) but from what I've read around the quality is also diminishing and it doesn't seem to be the best option if you want to go Linux. I guess there's just not a perfect choice...

Anyway, thanks a lot for your contributions, I really appreciate them!

Salud!
 
  


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