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Old 04-05-2010, 12:14 AM   #1
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broke my router


I have a Belkin Wireless G F5D7230-4. I was attempting to configure a wireless card on another computer on my network when it froze during the reboot phase after making settings adjustments. The wired connection is fine, except on that computer that I was making the adjustments from. It won't connect at all. I plugged a friends netbook into the same wired line and it connected. Also there is no wireless signal on any laptops. Mac, Win Linux, don't matter. I tried all the various methods of resetting to default but still when I try to access the router's config page @ http://192.168.2.1 I get the error


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The server at 192.168.2.1 is taking too long to respond.


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 $ sudo route -n
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
70.44.176.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.248.0   U     1      0        0 eth0
169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     1000   0        0 eth0
0.0.0.0         70.44.176.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
 
Old 04-05-2010, 12:31 AM   #2
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I thought your advanced login was 192.168.2.254
and the router is shipped with no password default is blank.
link to manual
 
Old 04-06-2010, 03:24 PM   #3
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When you tried to reset the router, did you try to push the reset button for more than 10 sec? it's located somewhere like pin hole
 
Old 04-07-2010, 03:22 AM   #4
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From your route output it looks as if the gateway was 70.44.176.1 so presumably your local IP is in that address space too. Your local machine needs to have an IP and netmask in the same space as the router to connect; after resetting that will be <whatever it says in the manual, 192.168.2.x according to Drakeo's post>. What is the output of ifconfig?
 
Old 04-09-2010, 12:38 PM   #5
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When you tried to reset the router, did you try to push the reset button for more than 10 sec? it's located somewhere like pin hole
yes
 
Old 04-09-2010, 12:39 PM   #6
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From your route output it looks as if the gateway was 70.44.176.1 so presumably your local IP is in that address space too. Your local machine needs to have an IP and netmask in the same space as the router to connect; after resetting that will be <whatever it says in the manual, 192.168.2.x according to Drakeo's post>. What is the output of ifconfig?
most of that's greek to me. when I get back to home I will post the output though for you.
 
Old 04-09-2010, 09:44 PM   #7
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eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0f:1f:48:8c:c4
inet addr:70.44.177.135 Bcast:70.44.183.255 Mask:255.255.248.0
inet6 addr: fe80::20f:1fff:fe48:8cc4/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:770633 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:55824 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:324140412 (324.1 MB) TX bytes:14371517 (14.3 MB)
Interrupt:17

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:182198 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:182198 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:10937460 (10.9 MB) TX bytes:10937460 (10.9 MB)
 
Old 04-10-2010, 01:29 AM   #8
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inet addr:70.44.177.135 Bcast:70.44.183.255 Mask:255.255.248.0
That shows your system has IP address 70.44.177.135 and netmask 255.255.248.0. According to page 15 of the router's manual its default address is 192.168.2.254 as Drakeo wrote. On the page before they imply its netmask is 255.255.255.0. Your computer must have an IP address in the same range -- 192.168.2.x -- and the same netmask before it can connect to the router. The manual suggests 192.168.2.200 so you might as well go with that.
 
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That shows your system has IP address 70.44.177.135 and netmask 255.255.248.0. According to page 15 of the router's manual its default address is 192.168.2.254 as Drakeo wrote. On the page before they imply its netmask is 255.255.255.0. Your computer must have an IP address in the same range -- 192.168.2.x -- and the same netmask before it can connect to the router. The manual suggests 192.168.2.200 so you might as well go with that.
I am really a bit confused as to what to do with that info?
 
Old 04-11-2010, 02:07 PM   #10
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I am really a bit confused as to what to do with that info?
OK. Understood. No problem

It would help us to help you if you said what you do understand and we can take it from there.
 
Old 04-13-2010, 12:41 AM   #11
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Ok...so this router I got used. Never had one before. So when the guy I got it from gave me a paper with 192.168.2.1 written on it as the router config page. It worked for me to set up my connection and a password etc. I did this from my main PC running Ubuntu. A side project is an older PC I'm trying to make functional as an educational tool for my daughter. It runs puppy Linux(won't boot any Ubuntu I've tried.) I got a DLink wireless card for it and was trying to configure it. So what I thought I was doing through a wired connection after no success connecting it wireless, even though other computers could connect to the network no problem, was removing the password, etc and making it into an open network. In the process of the router rebooting after making the changes, it just froze. So I reboot that computer and now it won't connect, wired or wireless. Noone can connect wireless anymore. No network found. The cable and that router wired port are fine cause I tested them on another computer. But no connection possible to the computer I was editing the settings from. Also, cannot seem to find the settings page anymore. All the suggested IP's come up with errors or time out. I don't know how to set IP's, it was always set as open DHCP. The ifconfig was from my Ubuntu PC connected wired to the main port on the router.
 
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OK, that's all good information.

I'm guessing:
  • You are connected to the Internet by cable.
  • The cable service is terminated by a box from the cable service supplier.
  • Your main computer:
    1. is wired to this box.
    2. is configured to use DHCP.
    3. gets its IP address and netmask from the cable service -- for example 70.44.177.135 and 255.255.248.0.
How did you connect from your main computer to the WURE to make configuration changes? By wireless?

Did you try rebooting your main computer (or otherwise re-initiating the DHCP-provided configuration) after wiring it to the WURE and after resetting the WURE?

Is your friend's netbook configured to use DHCP?
 
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if you are using cable internet your account could have been set up by hardware MAC id.
when you froze up it may have reset the setting.
This happens quite often when people change to a router when they set there account up with there computer. the IP internet provider could be using mac filter to set up accounts.
ways to find out call your IP. or use the setup to manually use the mac address. some routers have a setting for mac clone.
you can configure all you want you can connect to the router but you will never get internet.
comcast sets up accounts this way. and many other cable internet providers.
I have had to do this many times when people want to set up a home network. Or go buy a new ether-card or a new router. or a new computer with new hardware.
Good luck
 
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if you are using cable internet your account could have been set up by hardware MAC id.
when you froze up it may have reset the setting.
This happens quite often when people change to a router when they set there account up with there computer. the IP internet provider could be using mac filter to set up accounts.
ways to find out call your IP. or use the setup to manually use the mac address. some routers have a setting for mac clone.
you can configure all you want you can connect to the router but you will never get internet.
comcast sets up accounts this way. and many other cable internet providers.
I have had to do this many times when people want to set up a home network. Or go buy a new ether-card or a new router. or a new computer with new hardware.
Good luck
Hi Drakeo

AFAIK the connection from the main computer to the ISP is working OK. There could be some security issues with the main computer having a public IP and, from what little I've picked up (I've never worked on one of them -- it's all been ADSL modem/routers for me), those cable boxes are not ideal -- but that's a separate issue from getting the WURE working.

Assuming the man computer is the Internet gateway, the missing piece of the jigsaw puzzle is how the main computer connects to the WURE to provide connectivity for the wireless clients.
 
Old 04-26-2010, 05:26 PM   #15
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Sorry so long getting back to you. Haven't been home much lately. Busy busy busy...so

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OK, that's all good information.

I'm guessing:
  • You are connected to the Internet by cable.
  • The cable service is terminated by a box from the cable service supplier.
  • Your main computer:
    1. is wired to this box.
    2. is configured to use DHCP.
    3. gets its IP address and netmask from the cable service -- for example 70.44.177.135 and 255.255.248.0.
How did you connect from your main computer to the WURE to make configuration changes? By wireless?

Did you try rebooting your main computer (or otherwise re-initiating the DHCP-provided configuration) after wiring it to the WURE and after resetting the WURE?

Is your friend's netbook configured to use DHCP?
It's cable internet through a modem from cable co. I plugged that wire into the router and my main PC is connected to port 1 (wired) off that router. I tried rebooting after resetting the router...no help. The netbook is yes. Interestingly I have another laptop(Win Vista to be deleted on it) connected to the same cable that as of right now can't see the network wired at all. It see the wireless as an unsecured network but is unable to connect. I am confused?
 
  


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