Welcome to the Linux - Virtualization Forum
 

This forum is for the discussion of all topics relating to Linux Virtualization. Xen, KVM, OpenVZ, VirtualBox, VMware and all other Linux Virtualization platforms (both Open Source and proprietary) are welcome. Note that questions relating solely to non-Linux OS's should be asked in the General forum.

--jeremy

great, I'm probably going to be a frequent visitor here :)

It'll be tough to manage all virtualization architectures in one forum.
IMHO there should be one for each hypervisor in addition to a general one.

-Bruce

Let's wait and see how much traffic we get, shall we? :}

A start
 

OK, I'll start. I have been using VMWare Workstation on my Linux laptops since version 3. I am currently running the latest release candidate of version 7 on KUbuntu 7.10beta (I like to do beta testing). I also use ESX, ESXi, and GSX.

I work for a VMWare certified reseller and a MS Gold partner, so I have access to lots of software. We built a full virtual lab for testing all kinds of scenarios. It is also useful for demos.

I have used VirtualBox and Virtual PC (on Windows), but found that VMWare is much better. I really haven't had a need to try any of the other hypervisors like Xen or KVM. I am also a student, so I get a pretty fair discount on VMWare and the upgrades for my personal machines.

I monitor this forum through RSS feeds, so I will check periodically for updates and questions.

-Rick

Please keep in mind that this thread is only for feedback related to the announcement of the addition of a Linux - Virtualization forum here at LQ. Questions about Linux Virtualization should be posted as dedicated threads in this forum. Thanks.

--jeremy

Hi Folks -- as this is the official "Welcome Thread" to the Virt. Forum, I have moved a number of individual discussions & questions off onto their own threads.

Please keep this thread here, general, maybe with such comments about virtualization in general and what you think of this new forum (i.e. feedback specific to this sub-forum.)

If you have a specific question regarding your own virt. platform, please start a new thread of your own. Thanks, and enjoy!

Sasha

PS - If anyone whose post(s) I have moved, finds that their conversation is now out of context, of otherwise doesn't make sense, and you think we can help, please feel free to ask in-thread, or contact a moderator by clicking the REPORT button.

Well I for one am happy with a section for Virtualization. I never could get Xen to work on Fedora, so maybe now I'll get around to trying again. More often than not I'm either using Linux within VirtualBox or over an SSH connection.

OK:This sounds like a good idea!

Oracle VM
 

This is great. I have been working with Oracle VM which is based on Red Hat's implementation of Xen.

So Great, I have OpenVZ on server with Linux Debian, this is power full.
I will try to do my best in order to help you with OpenVZ

To clarify further in case anyone is having trouble locating their posts/threads after I moved them, you can locate all your posts/threads by clicking "Subscribed Threads" in the "My LQ" menu on the right side of any page.

Thank you.

My apology to anyone, (especially OralDeckard who inquired about this), who has experienced difficulty locating their posts.

Also, I left the titles of any moved threads pretty much the same as best I could, so if you go to the main "Virtualization Forum" threads listing, you can see all threads right there.

Best Regards,
Sasha

Great one here...

I'll also be around here enjoying.. :-)

Thanks for whom made it up..

It's really a good forum!!I like it.

hmmm... my first post?
 

my first post.... ooooo.... i am trying to get back into computers again since i have more or less left them off since i was in high school (class of '76). i did have an amiga 500 in 1990 and tried to do a little with that but... then i did gaming (nintendo) and pretty much left computers alone again until 2000 and a neighbor built one for me. windows 98 and i think a hard drive of 20gigs which i thought i could never fill. don't even remember the ram amount or the speed of the processor but hey... that was ancient history. i have rebuilt my computer a few times myself since then but it still did not make me anything more than a noob. i started playing world of warcraft in september of 2007 and yet getting tired of windows. i tried ubuntu 7.10 in late 2007 i think and although i couldn't get my brain to work well with ubuntu at the beginning i am now starting to understand it a lot more now. i actually stopped using ubuntu for a while since that first try and only recently (last 6 months) got my brain to be compatible with the linux systems. my first try to ubuntu was to get WoW working on a better system but i didn't do so well and that is why i stopped trying ubuntu. i started about 6 months ago with ubuntu again and kept at it and got WoW working. i reinstalled ubuntu quite a few times and each time i learned more and more. so now i want to continue learning. my computer now consists of an asus m3a78-em (which has some driver problems), phenom 9950 2.6 quad core, 8gb kingston, 9800gt nvidia, creative x-fi xtreme music, two 250gb sata western digital hds but i am only using one at the moment (and the rest i figure isn't needed to say yet). oh yeah... i'm running ubuntu 9.04 amd64 now too.

i like what i think virtualization is about but i am confused as to what it actually does and would be interested if someone could explain it to this "beginner" although given much time and i hope to move to expert... wouldn't that be nice =D

If I post a question in this virtual forum, will it be transparently passed to the underlying host forum for processing? :hattip:

Just as a note, here's how virtualization played out in the 2008 LinuxQuestions.org Members Choice Awards:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...e-year-695633/

--jeremy

I very much look forward to such a topic as virtualization involving topics of Linux as either a guest to another OS, or as the host to another OS, or Linux hosting Linux. How could the forum exclude even Hyper-V. Consider Hyper-V with a Linux distribution as the guest with the installation of XEN on the Linux guest to presumably get better performance of the Linux guest on Hyper-V.

Homerun

Rrasy-What is virtualization used for?
 

Sounds to me like you have a pretty good machine for a noob. I have been at it since 1982.

Anyway, I started out with VMware and found resources pretty slammed on both Host and Guest. And the virtualized switches (NICS) utilizing resources (IP's, ram, etc. etc) even when not running a guest are something else to deal with. And Virtual PC appears to have to run on a Windows Host!

So I have moved to VirtualBox- Running on 64 bit Ubuntu 9.04 and WinXP Guest at work and Virtualbox - Running on 32 bit Ubuntu 9.04 and WinXP/Vista Ultimate Guests at home. Linux/ubuntu hosts do not require all the resources the Microsoft counterpart do.

Why you say? I still cannot run my games from Windows on the virtualized guest (the OpenGL/DirectX thingy), but I can still run OpenOffice ;), Office, Anti-Virus, Firewall, Network Management softwares made only for Windblows. So I get the best of both worlds. And as a network Administrator, I can investigate issues on two platforms. Its a challange and I get to learn something new every day.

Maybe at some point I will look into Fedora and/or Suse Linux guests and find I like those systems better. As long as I can use open source and do the same things (but in a different way), and utilize the paid for operating systems/software - I will continue with virtualization.

Nuff said!
Wolfhere, the one and only

Hello everyone, I am jucas1961 from Italy,
I want to apologize for my English in school. I just installed linux (Ubuntu) on an iMac running VMware Fusion and it seems to work well. Then I installed Kaffeine with a broadcast reciver USB. So I'm a beginner.
I am very pleased to have joined this discussion forum.
greeting from Italy.

Well I really would not like to field questions that do not deal with open source.
example This is my point of view. I am sure there are people that think running linux in vm on
proprietary O/S is real good. But from a open source world this really is a set back.
Thank you

I also disapprove of the use of proprietary software.

But in the real world there are plenty of companies that foolishly demand their employees use insecure operating systems like Windows. Also, sometimes only proprietary Windows software exists for some task, and it may not run under Wine.

In such cases, using a VM to bring in a partial Linux solution is an improvement.

I'm in the position of having to use software that will only run under Windows, specifically Quickbooks for accounting (historical continuity essential) and Lightroom for RAW processing (it's a brilliant piece of software, essential for my work). My son, who actually looks after all the IT needs for our business, persuaded me to try Virtual Box for the Windows stuff. I love using Ubuntu so this is a great solution.

There have been some hiccups along the way, Windows sulks from time to time and our printers aren't supported on Linux. Our Canon i9950 now runs under TurboPrint on Linux, and is 'installed' on XP, but our Canon ipf5000 can only run in XP. But the whole system is faster and more secure, and TurboPrint gives a higher quality print output than Canon's own driver!

The best image viewer bar none, in my opinion, is Irfanview, which runs under Wine. Now, if only Irfan could be persuaded to produce a Linux version...

Great idea!
 

Me too, folks. Been wrassling with QEMU / KVM in Ubuntu LTS 8.04.x (mostly) since 9.04 breaks the Intel graphics on this laptop.

Finally acheived a l o n g - a w a i t e d ambition in February when XP ran cleanly and a flurry of small apps that would not WINE well ran inside a safe Linux machine for the first time - a first for me, anyway.

@Drakeo, @KenJackson - yes indeedy, the ideal situation is to use VMs as above, but humans being perverse and curious, my hope is that there will be a trickle of Win hosts migrating to Linux hosting of Windows that grows into a steady stream, eventually.

Doncha just love seeing Windows where it belongs - inside a window?
<grin> ;)

All the best, and thanks to LQ! Ben

Good forum. I do alot of testing using virtualbox

Sweet new forum! Been a huge fan of LQ for a long time... even more so now. :)

I've just started using KVM, I bet this forum will be an interesting addition to LQ. And I just posted my first question...heh.

thankx Jeremy

Linux-Virt is great!
 

I start with VMware Workstation, but then i tried vmware-server and i love it!

I test Virtual Box but it did not convinced me, i went back to vmware-server.

Then i tried OpenVZ, and i like it, more than vmware-server, specially because it does not virtualice the hardware, so it is more stable, fast and relieable, also is based on containers, so they are isolate guest OS. I am using VMware-server and OpenVZ, The both are great and the best in virtualization topics.

Now a full and complex scenario can be done with both options, if you need compatibility for others OS than GNU/Linux, vmware-server makes the great complement to do that task.

Have fun!

welcome , good idea now we can learn about that subject , many thanks for your effort

Thanks Jeremy, This is a(nother) great idea.

I have been using Vbox, Linux host, for a few years now and still have questions from time to time,

I have some hardware similar to some others that have posted here, and may be able to contribute if problems or queries arise.

I use vbox to run a winxp guest, mainly for a particular game that was made redundant with the introduction of the agp bus and drivers (as I understand it). It runs well in vbox.

I also use it for a sandbox to test web page design (warning, newb!) compatibility with iexplore. <edit> It's nice to not have to reboot for that</edit>

Thanks Heaps, Glenn

Having struck out with KVM and finding Qemu wouldn't load setup, I installed Vbox and now have Win 7 RC1 running in a virtual machine under Kubuntu 9.10. I still have some issues with sound and a few other things to work out, but I'm getting there. Vbox made it very simple.

I wonder what happened to this forum. Did it die a natural death? All my enthusiasms vanished.

The forum is alive and kicking, questions coming in, and getting answered all the time

Since I was the original poster, here's an update on my situation. I received a free upgrade to Windows 7 from the PC manufacturer so I just upgraded my dual boot and dropped the virtualization. I use the Windows boot so infrequently it's not worth my time to worry about the virtual machine. If disk space was a premium or I used it a lot I might work on it more. For now it's a dead horse. I spend 98% of my time is Kubuntu 64.

I'll start vm hacking, so exciting!

I'm currently in school studying networking and have become very interested in virt. Although I am still a novice on both fronts ( Virtualization and Networking ) I believe that, with the help of you all, I have the resources to gain a true understanding of these technologies. I look forward to posting question and receiving answers. Thank you all.

Gratify stronghold in watch that this cerebration is only for feedback consanguineous to the announcement of the increase of a Linux - Virtualization mart here at LQ. Questions most Linux Virtualization should be posted as devoted duds in this marketplace. Thanks.

I don't know what you just said, but you've given me a new word. Thanks.

hello .... a vant install virtuallbox on debain //// can i help you > you welcome

Can we include cloud also

The virtualization forum would be an appropriate place for cloud related discussion.

--jeremy

Virtualization
 

Hmmm!!!! I am surprised to see some posters here dissing proprietary software, but plenty mention of a proprietary program VMWare. So it goes to show not all proprietary software is bad, just maybe that it's code is closed and the pricing might be exorbitant. Not interested in replies as to many ongoing debates of proprietary vs opensource, just indicating that there is still a need to use these O/S's and apps. It takes a while to convince a world of other software available, and to use it, so if one is self skilled in all O/S and app areas then constructive comment is of a higher quality when in the argument for and against.

I personally use Ubuntu 11.04 64bit and Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, with Virtualbox running on both systems, giving me access to either of my OS's in the virtual world, when I am running one of them i.e, running Linux, but need access to Windows so use it via VB. I also have full access to my Windows partitions in Ubuntu (thankfully now natively built-in), and likewise in Windows using Linux partition tools, as I also run a dualboot with GRUB 2.0. This gives me the best of all worlds. I am very satisfied with VirtualBox and is no worse or better than other virtualising tools. It does the job for me in my own IT business, and my private life.

Regards

Thanks for creating such a important Thread and now a days all moved to new technology and this is one of the step towards new technology.
If there is important CBT and little bit basic things that are in video format so it is great for new learner.

Thanks,

I think this thread has had enough off-topic content tacked on for now; I'm closing this, after the removal of a link that has NOTHING to do w/ Linux, or Virtualisation.