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Old 03-08-2016, 09:17 AM   #1
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Question How to start the career cloud path ?



Hi everyone.

i need some advice about how to start the career path on cloud. right now im a
linux admin with four year experience working in a datacenter environment. i would like to
start my career o n cloud administration it seems Amazon public cloud doing well in the
market and private cloud segment redhat openstack is on the raise. rightnow with out cloud
computing getting a job in cloud environment is difficult. so i planned to learn by attending classroom course and with online docs.please share your ideas & advice.
what would be correct to learn.what are the other skills would be essential to become an
cloud admin which would be better private or public cloud ?

Thanks in Advance.
 
Old 03-08-2016, 12:34 PM   #2
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Probably OT, not really a tech question.

Not sure what your feeling are on professional certs, however that could be a place to show future employers that you either have the knowledge or drive for Cloud

https://www.openstack.org/learn/

https://aws.amazon.com/certification/

I'm not sure where you live, however you won't learn these skills from a 4 year college. They just don't keep pace with technology like this.

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Old 03-08-2016, 02:26 PM   #3
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I would suggest leveraging your "four years of experience as a linux admin working in a datacenter environment" to try to find an employer who needs that, and who is simultaneously using the cloud. Get inside, express your interest, and start 'learning by watching' what the others are doing.

My main beef with certifications, and with "book larnin'" in general, is that it is simply too abstract to be useful. You need to know what the problems are in this-or-that real world environment, about which you then seek solutions (and remember what you did and why). The best way to do that is to buddy-up to someone whose job it is right now to do that: to work alongside them.

Your career path should always strive to leverage what you have already learned, as a vehicle for exposing you to the next thing that you want to know.
 
Old 03-09-2016, 06:14 AM   #4
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The best way to do that is to buddy-up to someone whose job it is right now to do that: to work alongside them.

Your career path should always strive to leverage what you have already learned, as a vehicle for exposing you to the next thing that you want to know.
While I like what your saying...however in this day and age where everyone is replaceable, I have yet been in a work environment, where I could "buddy-up" with a person a level above me so I could advance to their position. In their eyes, I'm gunning to replace them.

In a previous position, where I worked help desk, I was doing all of the sys admin work, except I didn't have the title or pay. When it came time to promotion, in taking into account all of my degrees, certs, experience and I was doing the sys admin work, I still couldn't get promoted either internally or when I applied outside the company, I didn't have the right experience.

At least with certs, I can setup a lab and from there, lab, lab and lab away.

So let me ask you this. I'm almost two years into my current position as a Linux sys admin and I'm already thinking about the next position, to advance, however I don't know what that is or where it is.

What are your recommendations?
 
Old 04-20-2016, 01:39 PM   #5
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I would suggest leveraging your "four years of experience as a linux admin working in a datacenter environment" to try to find an employer who needs that, and who is simultaneously using the cloud. Get inside, express your interest, and start 'learning by watching' what the others are doing.

My main beef with certifications, and with "book larnin'" in general, is that it is simply too abstract to be useful. You need to know what the problems are in this-or-that real world environment, about which you then seek solutions (and remember what you did and why). The best way to do that is to buddy-up to someone whose job it is right now to do that: to work alongside them.

Your career path should always strive to leverage what you have already learned, as a vehicle for exposing you to the next thing that you want to know.
I never heard back on this and was curious on how you would answer the question that I've posed.
 
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The OP has (what I deem) adequate precursors to getting into this arena.
But I suggest the OP not to become to fixated on the term "cloud".
It's a marketing term for folks who don't understand jack all about computers.

The 2 links JockVSJock gave are excellent.
Study and prepare and then be patient.

When the right job opens up, you'll be ready.
 
Old 04-21-2016, 10:48 AM   #7
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But I suggest the OP not to become to fixated on the term "cloud".
I agree there, I hate the term "Cloud." What the hell does that mean? Why the "Cloud?" Why not mass virtual servers?
 
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I agree there, I hate the term "Cloud." What the hell does that mean? Why the "Cloud?" Why not mass virtual servers?
Cloud.
noun.
To become foggy or gloomy, to become obscured from sight.
Certainly seems to fit.

Or "Cloud: I don't know where my stuff is."
 
Old 04-22-2016, 02:04 PM   #9
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Sign up for a free account on a cloud platform service, study it, and start applying for jobs?
 
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http://aws.amazon.com/free/
 
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