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Old 05-11-2005, 08:44 PM   #1
Nalorin
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yum, firefox, ATI drivers, bashrc, perl/Tk, Logitech keyboard, etc - lots to fix!!!!


FYI, I just reformatted, and reinstalled Fedora Core 3. I am running kernel 1.6.9-1.667, other specs to follow in my signature. Since I reinstalled, I no longer have everything setup exactly how I want them. I had to switch hard drives because everything was running slow before, because the x-fer speed was only 20MB/s as opposed to 40MB/s with the one i'm currently using (I can't afford a really nice drive, yet).

I use my computer for C++ programming and perl/Tk scripting, web browsing, watching DVDs, and I want to use it for playing games as well...


1) yum gives me the gpg-key thing - I need to use it for package installation

2) fedora freezes for a few seconds periodically (usually in firefox), then works properly again

3) installed fglrx drivers from ATI on previous installation, and tuxracer worked well, but more intensive programs (eg. celestia) that work smoothly on windows run at 2-4 fps on linux, I want my graphics to work well on linux as well

4) want to edit my /etc/bashrc so that a) I don't have to type ' ./ ' in front of something I want to execute (in ANY directory) and b) I don't have to type ' /sbin/shutdown ' -h now (instead, i want to type ' shutdown -h now ')

5) want Logitech Internet Navigator Keyboard media buttons to work (play, ff/rw, stop, mute, vup, vdown, etc)

6) need perl/Tk to work properly

7) need 16x DVD +/- RW drive to work, as well as 16x10x40 CD-RW drive (both Lite-On) so that I can burn from linux.

8) how do I set up my puter to watch DVDs with the Lite-On DVDRW drive?

9) numlock key doesn't come on when booting... I need it on, because it drives me crazy when trying to use the keypad!!!

10) setting up automounting of my drives (as well as setting it up to recognize the ntfs partition of windows) on bootup
 
Old 05-11-2005, 08:53 PM   #2
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sounds like a good list for a bug report :-) to fedora.
1) edit the file /etc/yum.conf
2)try upgrading packages or fill a bug report
3) reinstall the drivers like you did
4) edit your bash_profile or bashrc and add the /sbin path to your PATH variable.
5)use fedora utilities to configure your mouse
6)i guess you just have to install it
7) install k3b
8) install xine and/or mplayer
9)check the /etc folder for a console or console-tools subfolder.
10) check the file /etc/fstab
 
Old 05-11-2005, 09:00 PM   #3
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i didnt know the kernel for FC3 was 1.6.****

mine is 2.6.11-1.14_FC3
 
Old 05-14-2005, 01:16 PM   #4
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Originally posted by mrcheeks
sounds like a good list for a bug report :-) to fedora.
1) edit the file /etc/yum.conf
2)try upgrading packages or fill a bug report
3) reinstall the drivers like you did
4) edit your bash_profile or bashrc and add the /sbin path to your PATH variable.
5)use fedora utilities to configure your mouse
6)i guess you just have to install it
7) install k3b
8) install xine and/or mplayer
9)check the /etc folder for a console or console-tools subfolder.
10) check the file /etc/fstab
Did you get all of your 800-somewad posts by making retarded posts like this?
 
Old 05-15-2005, 05:47 AM   #5
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Than's interesting Natorin

When someone comes to this board, I believe there is an assumption that the advice given is correct. And based upon that, people will jump in and make corrections, even copy/paste commands in root based upon the recommendations

I know if I had just started and saw those instructions from someone with 800 posts, I would have accepted it
 
Old 05-15-2005, 06:21 AM   #6
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Originally posted by Nalorin
Did you get all of your 800-somewad posts by making retarded posts like this?
should be more polite and ask for details when you don't understand. it is not shamefull to say that you didn't understand nothing, if you did you could have asked and according to the time, i could have added details. get yourself some education and take the time to grow up.
 
Old 05-16-2005, 12:24 AM   #7
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well... i didn't mean to stir up the hive... but the instructions given were far less than even remotely helpful, and even less specific.

eg: "reinstall drivers like you did" - that's pretty specific considering I said that I had problems with it last time, namely "installed fglrx drivers from ATI on previous installation, and tuxracer worked well, but more intensive programs (eg. celestia) that work smoothly on windows run at 2-4 fps on linux, I want my graphics to work well on linux as well"

and what about "use fedora utilities to configure your mouse" - I asked about my keyboard...


usually, if someone posts a lot of things that need fixing, it's because they don't even remotely remember how to fix them... I did manage to fix the first one, after spending about an hour and a half looking for ways to fix yum... shortly afterwards, I noticed some gpg keys on my fedora dvd... i used those to start, then I updated yum, and found a few more gpg keys to import off the internet...

but If I were to spend 1.5 hours on each of the problems listed below, that'd be ~15 hours (or more, since these were the only issues I could think of at the time).

it's weird, though... from my previous experience with LQ.org, people were more friendly and helpful... I even added LQ to my bookmarks toolbar for firefox.... the other linux forums weren't so lucky. If I were to easily be able to find the threads that got my computer working in ship-shape condition before, I would've never posted this thread... but one major setback in that was the fact that the search engine on the site doesn't seem to be working properly right now... if you search for a username, it brings up threads that one has ~replied to~ (not started) immediately.... if you search for anything else, it takes anywhere from 1 to 10 minutes before the search actually does anything... the page just sits there, and the firefox tab says "loading..." on it... once it has it's little 10-minute spat, then it performs the search that you requested...

and as for "I know if I had just started and saw those instructions from someone with 800 posts, I would have accepted it"... well... after having a "friend" borrow money from me (~20 bux) on 3 or four occaisions and repaying within the time that he allotted, and then asking for 80 bux and taking off, never to be seen by me again, I have a serious trust issue. not only that, but I may be a n00b to linux, but i'm not stupid... when I "copy and paste" commands, I usually (95% of the time) understand what they do... but I am wary about people who, even having 800 posts, post and expect me to copy and paste everything, because one may never know when it can do harm to your computer. And having 800 posts and posting literally USELESS instructions (they didn't even help me find anything useful to help me resolve the issues) is not my idea of something that I should just "accept"... if you "would have accepted it," that's your ordeal, not mine... it's good to know you instill a little more trust in people than I do... but really.... my motto with forums like this is: "If you're not sincerely trying to be helpful, then don't try to help... period" The reason being is because it leads to problems like this, where one member (like myself) starts getting angry with another one... and it's not the way that I like to handle my affairs....


----- Now... I wonder... -----

would it be too much to ask for more /specific/ instructions? (i.e. the precise changes I need to make to my fstab or whatever to get my drives to automount and my burners to work (yes... i've tried k3b, but it didn't work before I reformatted, so i'm just as skeptical this time around), or more IMPORTANTLY - how can I fix my linux so that it doesn't freeze every 30 seconds or so for a few seconds... especially when using firefox.

it's even worse with my wife's computer - firefox freezes for up to 1 minute at a time and always freezes for at least a minute when she starts it up... help???)


-oh and I just remembered... I also got Tk to work... so that's #1 and #6 off the list... NO THANKS TO MRCHEEKS

Last edited by Nalorin; 05-16-2005 at 11:21 AM.
 
Old 06-13-2005, 10:56 AM   #8
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Not Cool!

Nalorin,

The problem I see with this laundry list of problems is exactly that: it is a laundry list of problems. It seems you thought you'd save some of YOUR time and dump it all under "Linux - Software". Some of these are hardware, some are programming, some have almost no detail, and all of them seem to be separate problems. And then you get snippy when someone doesn't provide you with a laundry list of "specific" solutions. Not Cool.

The solution (IMHO) is to inquire about each of these, perhaps combining one or two _closely_related_ problems, in other forums (like "Linux - Hardware" and "Linux - Distributions (Fedora)" and "Programming") containing similar problems and solutions. It may not be true, but dumping this list here makes me suspect you did little to search for answers to those questions here before compiling the list. That suspicion alone makes me quite unlikely to waste any of MY time finding solutions to YOUR problems.

Please forgive my insensitivity,

troj
 
Old 06-13-2005, 01:54 PM   #9
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Too many questions in one thread. This can put off some people. Please put your questions in appropriate forums or sub forums on this site and I am sure you will get a lot more responses.
 
Old 06-23-2005, 12:45 AM   #10
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Re: yum, firefox, ATI drivers, bashrc, perl/Tk, Logitech keyboard, etc - lots to fix!

Hey - how have you been getting on with this?
While the other posts are generally good advice I like a challenge (apologies if you've already reposted in different forums...)

Overview: You should probably reinstall FC3 (or FC4 by now) since there are so man issues. I have noticed that Fedora sometimes requires several attempts to get hardware right - especially on "upgrade" where there is quite a bit of 3rd party or proprietory software in there. (BTW: is this a clean install or an "upgrade"?)

Details: I'll stick these in with your questions.

Quote:
1) yum gives me the gpg-key thing - I need to use it for package installation
Take a look at www.fedorafaq.org ...
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2) fedora freezes for a few seconds periodically (usually in firefox), then works properly again
This is a known problem with firefox in fedora 3. The firefox site has the fixes - and there are many discussions in these forums. But first - try turning off IPv6.
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3) installed fglrx drivers from ATI on previous installation, and tuxracer worked well, but more intensive programs (eg. celestia) that work smoothly on windows run at 2-4 fps on linux, I want my graphics to work well on linux as well
I imagine so You probably need to upgrade OpenGL.
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4) want to edit my /etc/bashrc so that a) I don't have to type ' ./ ' in front of something I want to execute (in ANY directory) and b) I don't have to type ' /sbin/shutdown ' -h now (instead, i want to type ' shutdown -h now ')
I hate to contradict you but no you don't ... that would be a major security breach!
Probably your best bet is to stick scripts you want to run frequently all in the same directory... like ~/scripts ... then add that directory to your PATH like this: export PATH=$PATH:~/scripts ... then all you need to do is type the name when you want to execute.
Better yet: why not create a launcher for your favorite scripts - then the ./ is part of the launcher script.
Things in /sbin usually need root access ... you're not running everything as root are you? That would be very naughty! Don't expect help if you are. If you need access to things like that, run them as a script as before. But why are you not using the GUI shutdown command? Also - Fedora is more stable than Windows (when it is configured properly that is) so you should very seldom need to shut it down - even for maintenance.
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5) want Logitech Internet Navigator Keyboard media buttons to work (play, ff/rw, stop, mute, vup, vdown, etc)
So go get and install the keyboard driver.
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6) need perl/Tk to work properly
In what way is it not working now? (Reply as anew thread in "programming" or "software".)
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7) need 16x DVD +/- RW drive to work, as well as 16x10x40 CD-RW drive (both Lite-On) so that I can burn from linux.
see here for commentary. Then get back to me. Reply in a new thread under "hardware" quoting your hardware - but read the stickies first.
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8) how do I set up my puter to watch DVDs with the Lite-On DVDRW drive?
Most folk with FC3 use MPlayer ... see the fedora faq for details how to get and install this. Otherwise you'll need Xine. If you did an everything install, the default application will rpobably work but you have to enable it. It;s under "removeable drives/media" in "preferences" - just check the box and inster the DVD.
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9) numlock key doesn't come on when booting... I need it on, because it drives me crazy when trying to use the keypad!!!
You need to set this in your boot script against the keyboard driver. Google is your freind. (Try this agin under hardware.)
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10) setting up automounting of my drives (as well as setting it up to recognize the ntfs partition of windows) on bootup [/B]
What about it? The installer should have set this up for you. You do not mount drives, you mount filesystems. This is acheived with /etc/fstab

gedit /etc/fstab

You'll get the idea. You stick the normal mount commands in there along with automount option.

/dev/hda1 /usr/windows ntfs auto,ro 0 0

That should give you a good start.
BTW: It sounds like you've come from the MSN website and their Win is better than Lin articals and studies. Everything on your list is what they say wrongly) is broken in FC3. Also, I note that FC3 does not come with firefox, you had to go get it and install it. So your problems there may be an install issue... what is wrong with Mozilla Suite?

Last edited by Simon Bridge; 06-23-2005 at 12:48 AM.
 
  


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