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Old 12-23-2001, 07:12 PM   #1
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XConfig


Why doesn't Calera OpenLinux eDesktop 2.4 include xconfig and where do I get it from? I found instructions in my book on Linux for recompiling the kernel, but the cd-rom includes OpenLinux 2.3 and I tried installing it and couldn't due to the fact the version of Xfree86 included didn't support my video card. I can't believe Caldera would leave out such an important application and I think they owe it to the users of their os to include it.
 
Old 12-23-2001, 07:44 PM   #2
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Instead of worrying about XConfig try using xfree86setup or xf86config.
 
Old 12-23-2001, 07:51 PM   #3
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I simply want to use XConfig to make it simpler since I already have instructions for it. Furthermore I haven't used the Linux command line a lot and like the idea of using a graphical program to make it easier.
 
Old 12-23-2001, 07:55 PM   #4
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I understand you like XConfig, but xf86config on the command line is not hard whatsoever and would be good to learn and you may just find it faster. The only difference is you type the answer instead of click it, no difference in what you should pick for your system, therefore nothing changes except the interface.
 
Old 12-23-2001, 08:02 PM   #5
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After my experience with the command line I'm very frustrated with it and I would prefer a much more Dos like command line any day. In short I prefer to learn as little about any criptic command lines as possible. Even learning a little about how to edit Dos system files was a major learning experience for me.
 
Old 12-23-2001, 08:13 PM   #6
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I understand what you're saying and you'll please forgive me for misunderstanding at first that you are recompiling the kernel not configuring X. So forget what I said about those other commands. make menuconfig is what you would use on the command line for the kernel. I really can't say why make xconfig isn't working. The menuconfig is actually fairly graphical and very easy to understand. I know learning another OS is not easy, especially one that still uses the command line for almost everything. What kernel version are you recompiling just for curiousitie's sake...
 
Old 12-23-2001, 08:23 PM   #7
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I'm recompiling my current 2.2.14-4 kernel to 2.4.17 to add support for my Logitech iFeel Mouse and I need to get it done fast because there is special software I have to run in Windows XP Home Edition made by Logitech to support the force feedback and I'm guessing if I try booting into WinXP it will cause problems as a result. Thanks for all your help.
 
Old 12-23-2001, 08:27 PM   #8
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The only thing linking Windows and Linux is the bootloader LILO as I assume from the other threads you are using.?. Messing with the kernel in Linux has no effect on Windows whatsoever. You should then in that fact be ok to boot into Windows. I assume though that this is a stand-alone install of Caldera with it's own partitions and not a Windows type install?
 
Old 12-23-2001, 08:36 PM   #9
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I'm currently dual-booting between Windows XP Home Edition and OpenLinux eDesktop 2.4. The only reason I can't boot into WinXP is because in order to install Linux I had to use a different mouse because my Logitech iFeel Mouse froze during Lizard and I can't boot back into WinXP or I fear I may mess things up big time if I dare try because of Logitech's force feedback software the other mouse uses which is only supported kernel 2.4.
 
Old 12-23-2001, 08:43 PM   #10
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OK, now i'm confused! LOL You had to switch mice to install Linux because the one froze Lizard (the install program I assume?). Got that, so where exactly are you in the install? Is LILO actually installed and you are in Linux affraid to try and boot into XP until you update to the 2.4.17 kernel? Am I getting this right?
 
Old 12-23-2001, 08:52 PM   #11
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Yes, in fact I can even confirm because just yesterday I found something in ZDNet's Linux section mentioning the fact that the Logitech iFeel Mouse is only supported in kernel 2.4 and later and I assume it's because it's a fairly new mouse. Also just for your information you were right Lizard is Caldera's installer and I believe it stands for Linux Wizard.
 
Old 12-23-2001, 08:58 PM   #12
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Ok, well I don't exactly understand why you don't wanna try booting into XP. I'm a little confused there, but if you want to update the kernel to a 2.4 version and xconfig isn't there or working you'll need to do a make menuconfig and configure the kernel that way with the same options you would have if you used xconfig. If you need help on what to do after that there are only a couple commands you need to do. What do the directions you have say to do after you configure the kernel?
 
Old 12-23-2001, 09:03 PM   #13
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What folder do I need to be in to do a make menuconfig or how do I do it?
 
Old 12-24-2001, 07:09 AM   #14
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just change to the directory where you put the kernel source (you should put it in /usr/src/) and then just run 'make xconfig' or 'make menuconfig'.

'make' is a single program in /bin (/usr/bin?) and it uses the 'Makefile' file in the directory you are in at the moment you run the program. the parameters (such as, install, menuconfig, bzlilo, modules...) are entirely dependent on what's in the make file, i.e. what the code writer wrote. if you get bored, look at a Makefile to get a better jist of what these parameters do. the kernel Makefile is huge tho... be warned!

and if you'd rather have a dos command line, i'd beleive that you've just not had enough experience with a real console yet. once you get the hang of it, you'll think it's vastly nicer than a lame dos-prompt.

if you're just learning to compile a kernel, make sure you've read the howto in detail.
 
Old 12-24-2001, 03:39 PM   #15
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What is the Linux command line equivalent of the cd and cd\ commands? I also need to know what folder to put Lilo 22.1 in and comprehensive installation instructions. Where can I download XConfig from?
 
  


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