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Old 04-01-2004, 06:11 PM   #1
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Hello, I recently began my first major foray into desktop Linux (I've been using it as a server for a while), with RedHat 9. This distro is installed on my dual AMD MP 2800 workstation, with 512 MB RAM. Well, I do like it better than Windows overall. But I've been having some problems.

I use the GNOME desktop, with an NVidia Gforce 4 graphics card. Every other time I boot up, for some reason, something doesn't work. This is either with trying to browse the Web with Mozilla, get my Email with Ximian, or playing some songs with XMMS. It'll just freeze, I can't move the mouse or get it to respond to keyboard commands. I'm running XFree86 version 4.3.0, and have the 2.4.30-9smp kernel running.

Right now I'm mainly in the process of making this my main desktop box, but once I get it a bit more stable, I plan to use it for some audio recording, and other multimedia tasks. Would switching to a distro like SUsE be a good idea?

Thanks for any help.
 
Old 04-01-2004, 06:16 PM   #2
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Could be a hardware problem. I currently run SuSE and think I had similar problems when first using it (a while ago). Linux is finicky with hardware problems and errors, and especially with DMA. You could try and disable DMA use or even increase the redundancy in your motherboard by configuring the BIOS for stability rather than speed.
 
Old 04-01-2004, 06:19 PM   #3
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I wouldnt switch, Redhat is pretty good.

I would suggest troubleshooting the situation, relating it to an IRQ, or other resource specific problem.

If you also try some kernel parameters at boot that might help.

Do you notice this while always doing something particular?
are you absolutely sure it isnt your bios halting the system from a temperature increase, you may have the threshold set just on the line, if you think this could be a problem with the bios temperature settings or heat, raise it , or get a fan.
 
Old 04-04-2004, 06:49 PM   #4
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I do have fans set up. Although I did run the update manager, I'm not sure if it stuck all the latest kernel patches in... I'll check that out. I notice this usually with Mozilla (it's updated) as well as XMMS (also updated).
 
Old 04-04-2004, 07:10 PM   #5
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well, redhat is going to go ghost... anyway, did you install the nvidia drivers? try that, and if it still freezes, i get the same problem when lilo automatically selects the OS without any keyboard input from me. i hit enter before the time expires and it doesnt freeze.
 
Old 04-04-2004, 07:29 PM   #6
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The right drivers are installed. Just now I booted it to the 2.4.20-8smp kernel, and it seems pretty stable. It also seems to run more smoothly than 2.4.30-8smp. I'm going to check out the kernel updates anyway though.

The 2.4.20-8smp kernel was actually highlighted by default. I just stuck with 2.4.30-8smp because it was newer... Previously, when I just had 2.4.20 running, I had some problems, but I updated other things than the kernel. I'll see how this plays out.
 
Old 04-05-2004, 09:56 PM   #7
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Originally posted by AutOPSY
I wouldnt switch, Redhat is pretty good.

I would suggest troubleshooting the situation, relating it to an IRQ, or other resource specific problem.

If you also try some kernel parameters at boot that might help.

Do you notice this while always doing something particular?
are you absolutely sure it isnt your bios halting the system from a temperature increase, you may have the threshold set just on the line, if you think this could be a problem with the bios temperature settings or heat, raise it , or get a fan.
Aside from the fans and changing the temperature settings, what would I go about changing in the BIOS to make it a bit more stable?

Also, I noticed something else. Sometimes when I boot up, at random it will hang and a message will appear something like dma_expiry timed out or something like that. Could this have something to do with it? (Sorry about the incomplete line; I'll post the full message later.)
 
Old 04-05-2004, 10:02 PM   #8
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have you got plug and play os set to yes? if so set it to no... you can change the bus speed on some mb's if so lower it by a few mhz, your computer will run slower - but since 11.5 * 133 = 1529 and 11.5* 100 = 1150 you have alot of room to play with!
 
  


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