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Old 06-14-2004, 09:47 AM   #1
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X app without a window manager not true fullscreen


Hi there,

I want to run an app (firefox) from my .xinitrc file without a window manager.

This boots up and loads fine, however the application is not fullscreen, i can still see the default desktop in the background.

Crude diagram.....

=====================================
=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
=xxxxxxAPPLICATIONxxxxxxx
=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
=
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= Default blank desktop
=
====================================

How can i force this app to take up the full 800x600 screen ?
-geometry -height and -width command args to /usr/firefox/firefox fail.

XFree3.3.6

Thanks in advance for any help

Last edited by Onyx^; 06-14-2004 at 09:49 AM.
 
Old 06-14-2004, 11:46 AM   #2
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This is just a guess:
Start Firefox in a regular x session with a window manager, then full-screen the application (F11).
Close it and then try your x session without the window manager.
I'm assuming Firefox will remember its previous state.
 
Old 06-14-2004, 12:27 PM   #3
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fullscreen (F11) causes firefox to just lose some of its toolbars. It doesn't make the window any bigger (almost like x thinks it has a lower resolution that it is actually displaying)
 
Old 06-14-2004, 08:59 PM   #4
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ok...I didn't test it, and did say I was guessing...
Sorry I haven't got any more ideas.
 
Old 07-01-2004, 11:44 AM   #5
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*bump* does anyone else have any ideas on this one ?
 
Old 09-16-2004, 07:29 AM   #6
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Sorry to disappoint everyone with a bump and no solution, but i'm also interested in an answer to this as I just ran in to the problem myself. Did anyone find a way? I remember being able to get mozilla to resize, but firefox ignores everything I throw at it. I'll post back here if I do figure out something anyway.
 
Old 09-16-2004, 10:40 AM   #7
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Use the excellent Matchbox window manager.
http://matchbox.handhelds.org
The version I use is 0.6.2, but I'm sure the newer is better.

Yves.
 
Old 09-18-2004, 09:19 AM   #8
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matchbox is a great windowmanager (it's been a while since I looked at it) but it doesn't do exactly what I'm after at least (and I assume the original poster). I have found though that using javascript I have been able to make the firefox browser fullscreen, yet it keeps its toolbars and things as the browser is unable to be shifed off the screen to the top or left. So the toolbars will always be visible. The only way I can see to remove the toolbars (automagically) is to write a new chrome interface for it which I'll take a look at doing and report back here when it's done! I realise there are already a few around, like kiosk and such but they don't do exactly what i'm needing.
 
Old 09-20-2004, 05:59 AM   #9
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Matchbox isn't OK? I'm surprised because it has an option to do just what you want (kiosk-like): hide all bars, and display only active window.

Yves.
 
Old 09-20-2004, 09:19 AM   #10
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It might be ok to use, i'll keep it in mind. The main problem I have currently is that the firefox window refuses to accept geometry, as in when the browser launches you cannot specify where you want it placed, or how large you want it to be. That would solve almost all of the problems i'm getting which i remember mozilla used to support it. Is the option solely blocked within firefox alone, or is it a global block?
 
Old 09-20-2004, 11:37 AM   #11
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Further information: see "Kiosks and X terminals" here: http://matchbox.handhelds.org/usage.shtml

Yves.
 
Old 01-11-2009, 11:23 PM   #12
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not sure if you have found your solution yet or not,
you can use the JavaScript to open up a window with 800x600, and make sure your browser doesn't have the popup blocker enabled..

if anyone wants more in detail, put a post here, otherwise, i won't go into details.
 
Old 01-12-2009, 12:16 AM   #13
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This is a blast from the past! I remember getting javascript to resize the browser window and going through the chrome interface file (browser.js?) manually to remove all the toolbars. That was way back then though, I believe there was a fullscreen plugin that came out since then, and there is now a kiosk plugin that does everything - which I don't believe you even need to use javascript to specify the size with it anymore. I should have reported back here with the solution but must have got caught up in the excitement!
 
Old 01-12-2009, 12:45 AM   #14
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i am currently using "Full Fullscreen 3.1" add-on with Iceweasel 3.0.3, but it doesn't give me a *real* full screen.

when i run

# /usr/bin/X :0 -terminate & sleep 2 && DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/xterm

it goes into a X window with nothing but an xterm, then in that xterm i run

# /usr/bin/firefox

that is actually a "Iceweasel 3.0.3" with "Full Fullscreen 3.1" add-on, and with the setting that always start in the fullscreen mode.
(this works perfect when it runs with fluxbox window manager).

but fact is it doesn't give me a REAL full screen, coz i still can see part of the xroot background.

so my kind of work around is to call the firefox with a html file, and that html file contain a javascript to open up a full screen size window.

by the way, my window use 1024x768.

if you know an addon that can really do a REAL fullscreen with firefox, please let me know.

thanks.
 
Old 01-12-2009, 05:30 AM   #15
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I'm using 1024x768 also. I just had a look and I didn't use javascript in the end, the only thing I needed was a plugin called "Real-Kiosk" which seems to be renamed to "R-kiosk" and can be found here:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1659

Hope that helps!

Edit: Keep in mind this is also without a window manager - just your plain old xinitrc. If you're using fluxbox it might be limiting it?

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