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desbrenda 01-10-2014 01:01 PM

wine will not open my file
 
I downloaded wine to open a windows file i created before changing the hard drive. old hard drive has windows xp .new hard drive has linux mint. long story dont ask. anyway when i try to open the disc file it trys and then stops..I loaded linux mint with the same disc drive ,so not a disc drive problem. thanks for reading

schneidz 01-10-2014 01:07 PM

what type of file is it and why do you think you need wine ? run the file command on the file and copy-paste the output in your response.

desbrenda 01-10-2014 01:40 PM

hi .i am new to linux. the file that i am trying to open is a microsoft word file.i tried to open with various programs in linux and then looked on a forum that pointed me to wine

schneidz 01-10-2014 01:48 PM

have you tried open-office ?

can you please open a terminal and type in file followed by the filename in question so that we can make sure it is indeed a ms-word file ?

TB0ne 01-10-2014 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desbrenda (Post 5095663)
hi .i am new to linux. the file that i am trying to open is a microsoft word file.i tried to open with various programs in linux and then looked on a forum that pointed me to wine

Well, wine is, for lack of a better term, a windows emulator. If all you have is a Microsoft Word document...that's not a program, so naturally it won't 'run'.

Install and/or use either openoffice or Libreoffice (you probably already have them). You can easily open up Word documents in that.

frankbell 01-10-2014 08:35 PM

To expand on what TBOne said, you would not use wine to open the file. You would use wine to run Microsoft Word so that you could open the file with Word.

LibreOffice is a better option, and one that is native to Linux.

desbrenda 01-11-2014 09:19 AM

hi the document i am trying to open is definitely microsoft word. i have tried to open with libra office.nothing .i have looked in software manager for open office and i cannot see it

jdkaye 01-11-2014 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by desbrenda (Post 5096079)
hi the document i am trying to open is definitely microsoft word.

This is still not clear. Is the file a file created by MS Word (i.e. a .doc or .docx file)? or is it the actual MS Word program (a file whose name ends in .exe)?
Would you kindly post the complete filename of the file you're trying to open.
jdk

desbrenda 01-11-2014 09:47 AM

i have just loaded a microsoft word file from windows 7 os containing a christmas quiz onto a disc. i then verified it had copied. no luck with libra office
thanks for asking

jdkaye 01-11-2014 09:57 AM

For the second time, what is the complete file name including the extension of the file you loaded?
Libreoffice can read most MSWord files.
jdk

desbrenda 01-11-2014 10:24 AM

microsoft word document (docx)

jdkaye 01-11-2014 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desbrenda (Post 5096113)
microsoft word document (docx)

Thanks. You do not need to use wine. Libreoffice (Swriter) can open .docx files. What version of Libreoffice are you running? Are you sure your .docx file is not corrupted?
jdk

desbrenda 01-11-2014 01:16 PM

I used a new disc for this file .it runs on windows.I am not doubting your knowledge, all I can do is download a file to a new disc and try again. The program is Linux mint which I loaded onto a formatted hard drive 2-3 days ago.

John VV 01-11-2014 03:01 PM

a microsoft .docx file WILL NOT "RUN", NOT even on windows !!!
it is NOT a program to be ran
it is a document file formatted in the windows office format

You READ !!!!! it
in a word processor
on Windows that is MS's MS "office 365 "
or on windows and Mac and Linux
OpenOffice or LibreOffice

Quote:

The program is Linux mint which
there is NO program called "linux mint"

there is a COMPUTER OPERATING SYSTEM called "linux mint"
just like there is a computer operating system called "Windows 7 "
windows 7 is NOT a program to be "ran"


nor is a linux based Operating system .

TB0ne 01-11-2014 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desbrenda (Post 5096206)
I used a new disc for this file .it runs on windows.I am not doubting your knowledge, all I can do is download a file to a new disc and try again. The program is Linux mint which I loaded onto a formatted hard drive 2-3 days ago.

Linux Mint is NOT a 'program'..it is an operating system. A .docx file can easily be opened with Libreoffice...run it, click File->Open, and select it. That's it...I do it many times a day, as do lots of other people. We can't tell you anything more than that.

Microsoft Office will not work well (if at all), under Wine, and frankly, there is NO NEED for it. Libreoffice does 99% of what MS Office does.

AGAIN: that file is NOT A PROGRAM. It does NOT 'run'...what you are doing in Windows is clicking the file, which then runs the program associated with it. Loading Wine will not change that...it still won't be a program, it still won't run.

Nbiser 01-11-2014 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John VV (Post 5096266)
a microsoft .docx file WILL NOT "RUN", NOT even on windows !!!
it is NOT a program to be ran
it is a document file formatted in the windows office format

You READ !!!!! it
in a word processor
on Windows that is MS's MS "office 365 "
or on windows and Mac and Linux
OpenOffice or LibreOffice


there is NO program called "linux mint"

there is a COMPUTER OPERATING SYSTEM called "linux mint"
just like there is a computer operating system called "Windows 7 "
windows 7 is NOT a program to be "ran"


nor is a linux based Operating system .

Good points, but I don't think that we needed the rant.

Nbiser 01-11-2014 04:09 PM

Hi!

Another way to try opening the file in Linux is to save it in a differnt word format such as .doc and then try to open it agin in Linux. Hopefully a different word format will open the file on you computer.

Cheers,
Nbiser

desbrenda 01-12-2014 01:05 PM

I agree with you totally.my choice of grammar was wrong,but YOU KNEW WHAT I MEANT. WHO ARE YOU,DO YOU WORK FOR MICROSOFT. I will not use this forum again ,I am so disillusioned with the comments.you people need to get a life
goodbye

John VV 01-12-2014 01:28 PM

desbrenda then reinstall windows 7 or 8

have fun

TB0ne 01-12-2014 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desbrenda (Post 5096736)
I agree with you totally.my choice of grammar was wrong,but YOU KNEW WHAT I MEANT. WHO ARE YOU,DO YOU WORK FOR MICROSOFT. I will not use this forum again ,I am so disillusioned with the comments.you people need to get a life
goodbye

desbrenda, you need to consider some things:
  • The people you're telling to 'get a life', are the ones volunteering their time to try to help you. NONE OF US make anything from helping people here.
  • You have repeatedly ignored people when they told you the answer to your question. Your file WILL open in Libreoffice...yet you haven't told us if you've tried it. Again, run Libreoffice...click "File", then click "Open", then select your file. That's it...just like you would in Microsoft Word.
  • Part of getting an answer to your question, is listening to what you're told. We have had to ask things repeatedly, just to get a clue as to what kind of file you were trying to open.
  • If you don't understand the difference between a file and a program, you should ask a friend to help you, or stick with Windows. Sorry to sound harsh, but asking questions that may have VERY involved answers (when you don't understand the basics), is fairly pointless.
We will always be happy to help you...but you need to participate in the process by answering questions clearly, and giving complete details. No one, anywhere, on any forum, about any topic, can answer questions without those things.

ukiuki 01-12-2014 03:38 PM

As I always explain to people, it isn't what we say to others that affect them, it is how we say it.
Different people have different amount of data in their brains/mind and they do process all what is in there or going there in different way and speed, according to that amount of data already processed in their minds.
It is then more difficult when some of that data or part of it is "corrupted", because first there must be a process to clear it up and only then, to upload the any new information in a proper order to avoid confusion, misinterpretation, or yet the loss of data on transfer, and here is the field where we deal with other human beings not machines.

We the tech guys many times well equiped with data to deal with all different types of problems related to the machines belonging to that people coming here for a solution, and exactly in this point we sometimes may forget that we are not dealing with the machine but with the person in the other side of the line/connection, because the machine is the thing in the middle between us human beings, no one to be blamed here, no one's fault.

The real question is: How conscious are we, that the other person is also conscious and we all have the common knowlodge about our mutual consciousness?
The answer: sadly very few.

Regards

TB0ne 01-12-2014 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukiuki (Post 5096799)
As I always explain to people, it isn't what we say to others that affect them, it is how we say it.
Different people have different amount of data in their brains/mind and they do process all what is in there or going there in different way and speed, according to that amount of data already processed in their minds.
It is then more difficult when some of that data or part of it is "corrupted", because first there must be a process to clear it up and only then, to upload the any new information in a proper order to avoid confusion, misinterpretation, or yet the loss of data on transfer, and here is the field where we deal with other human beings not machines.

We the tech guys many times well equiped with data to deal with all different types of problems related to the machines belonging to that people coming here for a solution, and exactly in this point we sometimes may forget that we are not dealing with the machine but with the person in the other side of the line/connection, because the machine is the thing in the middle between us human beings, no one to be blamed here, no one's fault.

The real question is: How conscious are we, that the other person is also conscious and we all have the common knowlodge about our mutual consciousness?
The answer: sadly very few.

I understand what you're trying to say, but I disagree. This has nothing to do with "mutual consciousness" or anything else; the OP took offense, and while it may have been justified, the OP must also realize THEIR role in the process too.

To paraphrase your post "We, the tech guys, many times are asked questions which make little or no sense, because the user hasn't shown effort on their part". No one is asking the OP to be able to debug code, write a program, etc....just tell us the extension of a file, what created it, and what you tried. Those are basics. I cannot BEGIN to tell you how many times I've had people ask me to restore files for them...but can't tell me where the file was, what it was called, what created it, when it was created/deleted, etc. ANYONE using ANY machine needs to know the basics...is it plugged in? Turned on? How do you use it? If they don't, there is NO AMOUNT of tech support that will fix that issue, for ANY machine, be it a television, computer, or a stapler.

If you take your car to a mechanic, they don't expect you to know what's wrong...but they DO expect you to be able to DESCRIBE WHAT ITS DOING. Telling them "My car doesn't go...and a friend said it could be something about a plug or something", tells them nothing, and getting frustrated when they ask you about it isn't good. This is the same situation.

Nbiser 01-13-2014 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TB0ne (Post 5096803)
I understand what you're trying to say, but I disagree. This has nothing to do with "mutual consciousness" or anything else; the OP took offense, and while it may have been justified, the OP must also realize THEIR role in the process too.

To paraphrase your post "We, the tech guys, many times are asked questions which make little or no sense, because the user hasn't shown effort on their part". No one is asking the OP to be able to debug code, write a program, etc....just tell us the extension of a file, what created it, and what you tried. Those are basics. I cannot BEGIN to tell you how many times I've had people ask me to restore files for them...but can't tell me where the file was, what it was called, what created it, when it was created/deleted, etc. ANYONE using ANY machine needs to know the basics...is it plugged in? Turned on? How do you use it? If they don't, there is NO AMOUNT of tech support that will fix that issue, for ANY machine, be it a television, computer, or a stapler.

If you take your car to a mechanic, they don't expect you to know what's wrong...but they DO expect you to be able to DESCRIBE WHAT ITS DOING. Telling them "My car doesn't go...and a friend said it could be something about a plug or something", tells them nothing, and getting frustrated when they ask you about it isn't good. This is the same situation.

He was clear, you are trying to excuse yourself. I was able to figure out what the problem was by reading his post, and I gave him a solution. You were being stubborn and were refusing to believe that there was something wrong with his computer. He said that his office program wouldn't open his docx file extension, and you told him to do what he was already doing, and what wasn't working instead of trying to figure out what the problem was.

In my humble opinion, all he needed to do was to save the file in a different format.

TB0ne 01-14-2014 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nbiser (Post 5097227)
He was clear, you are trying to excuse yourself. I was able to figure out what the problem was by reading his post, and I gave him a solution. You were being stubborn and were refusing to believe that there was something wrong with his computer. He said that his office program wouldn't open his docx file extension, and you told him to do what he was already doing, and what wasn't working instead of trying to figure out what the problem was.

I did not comment on ANYTHING you said, and the OP's posts were not very clear. It took several tries to even get a file extension of of them, and going back to post #3, the OP said it was a word file, that they were trying to open in Wine. Post #4 asked for details about the file to verify it (wasn't provided). I, and THOUSANDS of other people, have no problems opening .docx files in Libreoffice every day. Which is why the OP was asked to do something..which they didn't do. For all we know, the EXTENSION was .docx, while the file was ZIP'ed for transfer...which would CERTAINLY make Libreoffice fail to open it.
Quote:

In my humble opinion, all he needed to do was to save the file in a different format.
Which MAY work, but won't address any of the OP's other files, if they have any.


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