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Old 09-26-2003, 05:17 AM   #1
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Question windowmaker vs kde & gnome




being a complete novice to linux I've read many articles in magazines (&suse documentation) about the relative merits of gnome & kde. can't see what the fuss is all about from my point of view (uses a few applications etc) as they seem pretty similar.

neither the mags & documentation say anything about windowmaker, which seems pretty user friendly and fast

why?
 
Old 09-26-2003, 02:48 PM   #2
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IMHO, the goal of any kind of promotion is to get someone to try your product. The magaizines are promoting linux, and KDE and Gnome are the most popular because it gives Linux users that "warm, fuzzy feeling" they are used to when they run their computer. That being said, KDE and Gnome alos make it very easy (if they are configured right) to do anything that you want to do if your are a novice.

I consider myself a novice still, after too many installs and foobars over the past couple of years. I used to love KDE, but it ran slow. I switched to Gnome, and didn't like the interface and dock. I dabbled with WindowMaker for a while while using KDE, along with Blackbox. Windowmaker is not as cluttered as other GUI's, however configuration can be a pain in the arse if you want to customize it beyond what the packager for your distro did.

Although, using Debian, I get a weird message saying the menu I have is not right when I go into WMPrefs and try to edit the menu. I let it do it's thing once and lost my whole menu, so I don't edit the menu...any thoughts?
 
Old 09-26-2003, 04:49 PM   #3
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I love WindowMaker, but then again I used to run NeXT. There was survey done in 97 or 98 that showed WindowMaker was the most-used window manager at the time.

The hype today about KDE and GNOME has two aspects as far as I see it. First, vendors are trying to get Windows users to switch to Linux, and both KDE and GNOME are essentially Windows-like in their operation. Second, there is a KDE vs. GNOME battle, and that tends to drive interest.

We just need to get AfterStep and WindowMaker into more head-to-head combat!

Steve
 
Old 09-26-2003, 07:34 PM   #4
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Bro - there is no answer to this question. The relative merits of one WM vs. another is entirely subjective, and what seems to work best for you might not be the best choice for someone else. Just try them all out, and go with the one that suits you best. Regards -- J.W.
 
Old 09-27-2003, 05:29 PM   #5
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J.W, thegreatgatsby isn't asking which window manager is best, he's asking why KDE and GNOME get more time in the press. That's a very different question.

Steve
 
Old 09-27-2003, 07:50 PM   #6
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window maker is great, but it could do with better themes, i can think of a few that would make it killer
 
Old 09-27-2003, 08:21 PM   #7
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Quote:
Originally posted by Gill Bates
window maker is great, but it could do with better themes, i can think of a few that would make it killer
And have you made them and submitted them to themes.freshmeat.net? (And if you aren't inclined to make themes, perhaps you could describe them well enough so that somebody else could implement them.)

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Old 09-28-2003, 06:50 AM   #8
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well actually im trying flash my website to be something like windowmaker, the art work is hard, making see through glass docs is kinda difficult, if anyone knows how to do it, be my guest
 
Old 09-30-2003, 01:09 PM   #9
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I just saw some of the shots for the 2.0 release of AfterStep. It's not WindowMaker, but another NeXT clone, and it has
transparency. Time to download!

Steve
 
Old 09-30-2003, 02:39 PM   #10
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oohh, that looks pretty sweet
 
  


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