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Old 08-09-2005, 02:27 AM   #1
Be.Gurmeet.Be
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Question Which Driver is for my ATI Graphics Card ?


Hi,

I have system with following....

1. AMD 64 BIT 3000+ Processor

2. MSI Motherboard with " ATI Radeon XPress 200G " Integrated Graphics Card.

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I want to know that which of the following link goes to the driver compatible for my ATI Graphics card.

Following is the list of ATI Drivers available at ATI.com

1. ATI Proprietary Linux x86_64 Driver 8.13.6 for Radeon Xpress 200 Series

2. ATI Proprietary Linux x86_64 Driver for XFree86 / X.Org Version 8.14.13


I am using SuSE 9.3 Professional X86_64

Regards. & Thanks in Advance
 
Old 08-09-2005, 08:59 AM   #2
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Why do you need the ATI drivers?
If you need it for hardware 3D acceleration, it may not work. Lots of people, including me (9700pro) had problems getting the hardware acceleration to work with the ATI drivers.
The livna drivers worked great for me.

http://rpm.livna.org/livna-switcher.html

Opps, I just realized you are using suse, not fedora. So this won't work for you.

Last edited by ben201; 08-09-2005 at 09:36 AM.
 
Old 08-10-2005, 04:17 AM   #3
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No, i need NO 3D.

SuSE 9.3 x86_64 did not install my ATI Graphics Card.

I have to live with LARGE Icon Sizes, and only 1024 X 768 Resolution and only 65,000 Colors.

On the other hand my monitor supports..

1280 x 1024 Resolution , 32 BIT colors.

But when i try to change and save the desired resolution and colors in SAX2 Utility . X SERVER FAILS.....

I am new to Linux, but i could not bear it. i have read so many threads on this as well as other forums every body says that LINUX DOES NOT SUPPORT ATI GRAPHICS.

Is it TRUE ?

You tell me how can, one work on such a OS , which is unable to install Graphics Card , which is the primary component of the Computer System. Without Graphics, your monitor and it's look becomes worthless.

any way,

any Solution of the problem expect discard of Linux. i wanna stick with it.
 
Old 08-10-2005, 04:41 AM   #4
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well if you don't care that you won't have 3d acceleration why not manually edit your xorg.conf to use the packaged radeon driver?

i believe the driver is "radeon". don't know for sure, i'm an nvidia man myself

and your xorg.conf should be located in /etc/X11/xorg.conf , unless suse had to be different from every other distro i've used. i used suse for about 2 days over a year ago and quickly replaced it with fedora just my personal preference for a rpm based distro...
 
Old 08-10-2005, 07:30 AM   #5
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Quote:
Originally posted by Be.Gurmeet.Be
I am new to Linux, but i could not bear it. i have read so many threads on this as well as other forums every body says that LINUX DOES NOT SUPPORT ATI GRAPHICS.

Is it TRUE ?
Welcome to the world of Linux, where there are more flavors than you can shake a stick at.
Its not that linux does not support ATI, its more that the ATI linux drivers don't work too well.

I've been a long Fedora Core user and have several ATI products (Radeon VIVO, 9700pro, and Mobility M9). The only video problem I've had was broken 3D hardware acceleration
for 9700pro.

As to your original question, I would try the Xorg version.
 
Old 08-10-2005, 08:23 AM   #6
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If you really want 3D acc. The buy a NVIDIA card.. Or.. Get ATI to develop a Linux driver..
 
Old 08-10-2005, 08:58 AM   #7
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There are two ATI drivers available for you:

The first and most "radeon" driver, which is shipped with your installation. (it's installed with the kernel rpm package). I recommend using this driver. It's open source, quite stable, and you get average 3d performance with it. Don't expect to play doom3 with this driver, but opengl screensavers and games like Unreal Tournament run fine.

The other option is the "fglrx" driver from ATI itself. This driver is closed-source, but offers better 3d performance and tv-out support. Unfortunately, this driver has it's list of problems. I never had a stable system with this driver. It crashed my X server too often, I get quirks with both opengl+tvout enabled and even froze the system on a few occasions. Maybe this is caused by a weird combination of new mainboard + older ati card, but I'm not sure.

AFAIK, you can select both drivers in SaX2. Don't get too confused by the different names, all reffer to the same radeon driver.

If you're using the radeon driver, don't forget to add this to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf later:
Code:
Option "AGPMode"     "4"
(add it to the device section of the radeon driver)

Also don't forget to enable "3d support" somewhere in SaX2. For some reason, you need to enable it explicitly. You won't get any 3d support otherwise. :P
 
Old 08-14-2005, 09:19 PM   #8
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I think you must have the MSI RS480M2-IL motherboard, same as me. It has definitely been a pain to get the graphics working, but I have finally gotten X and Gnome running using the onboard integrated video.

I'm running KnoppMyth (Knoppix customized for MythTV. I used the 'ATI Proprietary Linux x86 Driver 8.13.6 for Radeon Xpress 200 Series'. Looks like you're on Suse, so YMMV.
  • Navigate to ATI Customer Care > Drivers and Software > Linux > Linux x86 > Motherboards with ATI Graphics. (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/...ge&folderID=27)
  • Download the check.sh script and run it. This should tell you which version of X you have and, therefore, which driver to download.
  • Download the appropriate driver. For me it was the 'XFree86 4.3' driver, 'fglrx_4_3_0-8.13.6-1.i386.rpm'.
  • Install the package. Since I'm on Knoppix (a variant of Debian), I had to use 'alien -d fglrx_4_3_0-8.13.6-1.i386.rpm' to convert the package to a debian package. Then I ran dpkg to install it. If your system can handle rpm's, it will be easier.
  • Run 'fglrxconfig' to set up video. Answer the questions appropriately. I did a very plain-vanilla set up.
  • Edit the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file to set the appropriate video resolution. I think otherwise it will default to VGA. Look for the resolution in the Section "Screen" / Subsection "Display", IIRC.
  • (Optionally) run 'startx' to make sure that X starts.
  • Reboot!
I tried the later 8.14.3 driver and it didn't work at all.

Haven't tried the digital sound, 3-D, or s-video out on this mobo yet. Hopefully they will work more easily.

Good luck!
 
Old 08-15-2005, 07:17 AM   #9
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I have the same motherboard but with SATA hard drive and no luck with Debian base distro. All of them (ubuntu, mepis, BSD, suse) cannot detect my hard drive, no need to talk about set up anything at all. Any help besides of compile new kernal!!

Last edited by monkeyz; 08-15-2005 at 10:28 PM.
 
Old 08-15-2005, 12:06 PM   #10
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Can't help diagnose the SATA problem.... but Knoppix (which is a Debian variant) recognized my SATA hard drive with no problems at all immediately. So it can be done :-)

mobo: MSI RS480M2-IL
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 160GB 7200rpm SATA
 
Old 08-15-2005, 01:57 PM   #11
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hi, thanks for reply,

first address to K-Bob , thanks a lot for reply, you are the first guy i met on this forum who is using the same Mo/Bo. Thanks a lot. I can not tell you, howam I confused. I am using linux from long time of 6 years. And i love linux more than any thing else in my life, but my all excitement of New AMD 64 BIT computer system truned into greater disappointment when i find SuSE (My favorite) is not detecting and installing my graphics.

well, i have made every possible effort to install it, i have tried more than 100 times in all the different ways. But no success.

First of all problems that , i was NOT sure that which .rpm is right for me.

Second, are you recommending to do all these steps on commandline.

Third , when i run ' check.sh ' it gives a message that you are not running ' check.sh ' from Console there for unable to determine which version of xorg you are using and it quits..... in next reply , i will post you the exact contents of error. I RUN ' CHECK.SH ' FROM CONSOLE OR TERMINAL.

Last but not least , please keep replying me till i sort out this problem. I request you since you are the only guy who can better understand what problem i am facing because you are on the same Mo/Bo. IS YOUR SYSTEM RUNNING ON MAXIMUM RESOLUTION WITH ATI GRAPHICS AND 24 BIT COLORS ?

Thanks a lot,

Address to ' monkeyz ' ,


i am running AMD 64 3000+ on SuSE 9.3 x86_64 Professional Version on MAXTOR 160 SATA HDD without any problem , yes i remember when i try to install 32 BIT SuSE on the same Hard Drive, SuSE did not detect it even. then i install 64 BIT Linux on the HDD withouth any problem.

thanks & regards.

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Old 08-15-2005, 02:06 PM   #12
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K-bob , you did not specify that which version of " KnoppMyth " you are running...

1. x86 ( 32 BIT Version )

2. x86_64 ( 64 BIT Version )
 
Old 08-15-2005, 07:33 PM   #13
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For Ben201

OK. I installed the drivers from Livna, but I assume that I also need to edit xorg.conf or something to make X use them.

'lsmod' has no reference to either the livna ati drivers, or to the vesa drivers defaulted.

Do you mind elaborating a bit? After installation, my xorg.conf file still looks like this:

Code:
Section "Device"
        Identifier  "Videocard0"
        Driver      "vesa"
        VendorName  "Videocard vendor"
        BoardName   "VESA driver (generic)"
EndSection

Last edited by rickh; 08-15-2005 at 08:13 PM.
 
Old 08-16-2005, 04:36 AM   #14
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Hi,

The RS480M2 works pretty much perfectly in 64-bit linux but you need to follow a particular route

1) In order to get sata driver working you need a recent kernel with a recent sata_sil driver. I have tested 2.6.12 which works. 2.6.11 may work too but I have not tested it. 2.6.10 does not work . The problem is that not many install cds use 2.6.12 yet so if you have only one drive and it is sata, you have to be careful which distro you choose to boot off. Ubuntu colony 2 does and I assume Gentoo 2005.1 does. As time passes all the new distro release will use 2.6.12+ of course so check any out that came out from July 2005, say.

2) The graphics chipset is the xpress 200. The ATI drivers (fglrx in xorg.conf) that work with that are version 8.13.x NOT 8.14.y. This may seem odd and it does to me but apparently 8.13.x is a special release just for us (xorg 6.8.2 is the best X release to use it with currently). Just run fglrxconfig to have a xorg.conf file made for you. Don't try to make it by hand. Don't worry about most of the questions but do choose 1024*768 to get things started.

As far as I know the radeon driver does not work yet. The vesa driver works but seems to have a some really big problems. e.g. it kills the system cold periodically if you switch from X to a VT.

3) Most other minor problems (i.e. the clock running too fast, lm_sensors etc.) are also fixed by using the latest kernels. I can tell you more if you get stuck

Raphael
 
Old 08-16-2005, 04:42 PM   #15
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BGB:

- I am running 1280x1024 w/ 24 bit color. Looks great!
- I think I've got 32-bit KnoppMyth running, but I'm not sure how to check... I think there's only one version of KnoppMyth... I don't recall seeing an option to download a 64 bit version.
- If check.sh doesn't run and you don't have any way of determining which X you're running, just try both the XFree86 4.3 and the XOrg drivers and (hopefully) one will work...

btw, [slightly off-topic] has anyone gotten the digital audio out to work with this mobo? (I talking about the S/P-DIF output jack, specifically using MythTV) I downloaded and installed the RealTek AC'97 Linux sound CODEC drivers, but with no success. (Sending it to a Denon AVR-3803 receiver, which hopefully is set up right...) The analog sound output works fine. Anyone?

Also, if anyone's interested, I got a Linksys WUSB54G 802.11g USB wireless adapter to work with this mobo and KnoppMyth using RaLink's RT25USB Linux drivers (v2.0.3.0). :-)
 
  


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