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Old 05-03-2013, 01:16 PM   #5041
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Inkscape 0.48.4
Inkscape is open source and any version should compile on Linux. I haven't checked, but what difficulties do you have with Inkscape in general or this version specifically?

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Old 05-03-2013, 02:35 PM   #5042
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If you mean the PC shouldn't crash all the time, you can find numerous examples from a google search showing just how much more stable any Linux installation is in comparison to Windows. It's one of the reasons why most web servers run on Linux instead of Windows.
That's a pretty blanket statement. I can also find numerous examples from this site that indicate the very opposite. In my years of experience repairing computers, it was apparent to me that the vast majority of PC "crashes" were the result of hardware failures, malware, or misconfiguration by the user, not to mention poorly performing apps. Modern versions of Windows don't "crash", I haven't seen a blue screen in years on Windows 7 or 8, or Server for that matter. They're plenty stable. Instability caused by application behavior has little to do with Microsoft, they don't control what application vendors do or sell. Any person researching Linux and reading this forum impartially might very well come to the conclusion that not only is Linux lacking in enterprise-grade software, but that it's completely unstable as well in a desktop scenario.

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Old 05-04-2013, 01:25 AM   #5043
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That's a pretty blanket statement.
Perhaps newer MS operating systems are better than they used to be yes. That still doesn't negate the fact that there's so much whining that a quick google search gives you a lot more complaints about MS than others. For Desktop, I'd concede that it's due to the fact that Windows is the predominant OS, so you'd expect a lot more written about it. But even on the server side (where the roles are either much more equal, or even reversed) you still find more complaints about MS.

As a personal anecdote, my previous company was in a similar position as per Dave's. SME leaning towards multi-national, with CAD being the major software direction. So storage was generally an issue - 5TB in one of the branch offices would be filled up with drawing files within a year. At first we were using a CentOS server, for 3 years it was never even turned off (serving files, login, firewall, email, etc. 24/7). Between 100+ users this server never had an issue in all that time, speedwise it performed like a dream.

Then there was an electronic timesheet / deliverable issue system introduced. This stupid software "required" an MS Domain & Directory Server and MS SQL backend. Since installing the MS 2008 Server there was simply no end of trouble, everyone needed to try loging in at least twice per day, all printers suddenly had issues as well, the network throughput went down by around 80%, and the server would crash at least every other week. And this was after the economic decline, which meant the company shrunk to only 30 people - so the server performed worse with less to do. The only way we could get it to perform decently was to revert file serving, firewall and email back to the CentOS server and let MS only handle the Domain, DS and SQL. Though even then we still had trouble with logins needing to be redone multiple times and printers suddenly becoming obsolete.
 
Old 05-04-2013, 02:06 AM   #5044
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We are a advanced ACAD user therefore ACAD LT is equivalent to etch a sketch for us and no use.
Fine, I'd still check out BC - if only to know for sure. As I said it does most of what full ACad does, even Lisp works inside it (unlike ACad LT). It's not 100% equivalent, but I've seen many "advanced" users not using those "extra" stuff in acad at all. Try their windows version out if you don't want to go the full hog at once. Then if you find it adequate, test the Linux version and see if you can actually work with it.

Otherwise as SLW210's mentioned there are other CAD-like programs which are similar to SolidWorks and the like. I've actually found that Mechanical CAD's are much more present in the Linux/Unix scene than other types and/or general purpose. Perhaps because the control equipment tend to run on Linux/Unix and thus it makes sense to have the design equipment work on the same systems.
 
Old 05-04-2013, 02:23 AM   #5045
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Inkscape is open source and any version should compile on Linux. I haven't checked, but what difficulties do you have with Inkscape in general or this version specifically?

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Absolutely true! You can either go download their source and compile it on your own Linux: http://inkscape.org/download/?lang=en
You could even go with the nightly builds for Ubuntu if you want the absolutely newest version. Though take note that these are not intended for production, they're more like alpha or beta releases and might crash or have bugs.

Or seeing as version 0.48.4 is the newest "stable" update, there are "experimental" packages out for some Linux distro's already: http://linuxappfinder.com/package/inkscape
 
Old 05-04-2013, 10:54 AM   #5046
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Perhaps newer MS operating systems are better than they used to be yes. That still doesn't negate the fact that there's so much whining that a quick google search gives you a lot more complaints about MS than others. For Desktop, I'd concede that it's due to the fact that Windows is the predominant OS, so you'd expect a lot more written about it. But even on the server side (where the roles are either much more equal, or even reversed) you still find more complaints about MS.

As a personal anecdote, my previous company was in a similar position as per Dave's. SME leaning towards multi-national, with CAD being the major software direction. So storage was generally an issue - 5TB in one of the branch offices would be filled up with drawing files within a year. At first we were using a CentOS server, for 3 years it was never even turned off (serving files, login, firewall, email, etc. 24/7). Between 100+ users this server never had an issue in all that time, speedwise it performed like a dream.

Then there was an electronic timesheet / deliverable issue system introduced. This stupid software "required" an MS Domain & Directory Server and MS SQL backend. Since installing the MS 2008 Server there was simply no end of trouble, everyone needed to try loging in at least twice per day, all printers suddenly had issues as well, the network throughput went down by around 80%, and the server would crash at least every other week. And this was after the economic decline, which meant the company shrunk to only 30 people - so the server performed worse with less to do. The only way we could get it to perform decently was to revert file serving, firewall and email back to the CentOS server and let MS only handle the Domain, DS and SQL. Though even then we still had trouble with logins needing to be redone multiple times and printers suddenly becoming obsolete.
These sound like issues revolving around the application itself, and the implementation, not Windows Server itself, which is pretty solid and used in literally millions of installations, some with many thousands of users. Rather than just blaming Windows, you should have looked at who was deploying and maintaining it. Also, if software requires a database, it requires a database. What's your point? You could always design your own software if you know how to do it better, I suppose.
 
Old 05-12-2013, 08:17 AM   #5047
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I would like to see Foxit Reader (a pdf reader) in Linux Mint or Debian.
It is friendly with Linux and the first programs worked fine on Wine.
 
Old 05-15-2013, 07:19 AM   #5048
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Cintanotes - alternative to Evernote

Cintanotes is a 'new' program that has been making waves over the last year.
It's small and is pretty handy to have sitting on the taskbar in Windows.
In one click you save data with url and then you can add tags and 'tabs'.
Syncs with Simplenote too!
In many ways, i consider it a kind of clipboard manager.
The data file can be stored on Dropbox (or similar) which is pretty useful as well.

The Devs are waiting for Linux users to make known their feedback.
Here's a place to start:
http://roadmap.cintanotes.com/topic/...r-wine-ubuntu/

Support team is just waiting for our feedback!
 
Old 05-18-2013, 04:12 AM   #5049
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These sound like issues revolving around the application itself, and the implementation, not Windows Server itself, which is pretty solid and used in literally millions of installations, some with many thousands of users. Rather than just blaming Windows, you should have looked at who was deploying and maintaining it. Also, if software requires a database, it requires a database. What's your point? You could always design your own software if you know how to do it better, I suppose.
I'm fine with a DB ... but the software REQUIRED MS-SQL, not MySQL / PostGre / some other client server DB - so it's only available to run on an MS server. It was actually a stated prerequisite from our side: We have a linux server, we don't want to install something else simply because of your program. They actually "duped" us, since they'd thought their MDB (file-based) version would suffice, but (as I already know myself) an Access DB is a no-go for more than one concurrent user. This was only stated after they could not make it run with stability.

We actually got the local MS branch's guys on site to try and "fix" these server issues. No niceties as yet , so who else should we have gotten in to "setup the server"? You'd think that the enormous license fee paid to them would count for something right?

As I stated, most of the issues were resolved by removing the server portions not needed to be MS, and letting Linux handle those.

Anyhow, it's not my issue any-more. I've left that company, so it's now someone else's headache. I'm very happy to be back in the as-much-Linux-as-possible land!

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Old 05-22-2013, 08:40 PM   #5050
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The Adobe Creative Suite would be awesome, especially InDesign. I haven't really found anything of that quality yet on Linux.
 
Old 05-30-2013, 12:39 PM   #5051
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Textpad.
 
Old 06-14-2013, 06:45 AM   #5052
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Textpad will work ok on either crossover or playonlinux the nearest is gedit or FocusWriter which are both excellent for the job.
 
Old 06-14-2013, 06:48 AM   #5053
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To those who grouse about Linux stability try Mageia 3
 
Old 06-14-2013, 07:08 AM   #5054
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Cintanotes roadmap

More people give their vote, more chances Cintanotes devs give it a shot at making it work in Linux!

New thread here:
http://roadmap.cintanotes.com/topic/...for-linuxunix/
 
Old 06-17-2013, 07:42 AM   #5055
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Adobe Dreamweaver. I don't miss other windows programs.
 
  


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