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Old 01-03-2013, 06:25 AM   #4921
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Just try Libre Office ... IMO it's more powerful than MSO (especially on large documents / spreadsheets).[snip]

As mentioned in a previous post here: The only items from MSO which I consider worth-while is Outlook and Access. Though an update: Outlook is entirely replaceable using Thunderbird (at least as far as I'm concerned). Access is still king of the DBMS GUI's, Libre-Office's Base is getting closer - but still a bit lacking in functionality.

[snip].
Since I have worked with (relational) databases since the mid 190s, I found that Microsoft Access (97) was essentially useless. It may have been impoved since then, but at that time, I could not even configure a database with 7 or 8 tables in it. It complained about circular references among the tables, and there were none.

I had to switch to Linux (no hardship as I had been proramming in UNIX since the mid 1970s as well) and ran Informix for a while; it was not great, but it did work. I later switched to IBM's DB2 and that was fine, but really too much of a database for the small application I needed it for. Originally, I tried postgreSQL but in 1998 or so, it did not work very well. But around 2004, postgreSQL worked just fine, and I have used it ever since.

The way I use a dbms, I have no need for a GUI. I do not know if Access is better than LibreOffice in that respect, but I sure would give LibreOffice a chance as a dbms gui if I needed one.
 
Old 01-03-2013, 09:44 AM   #4922
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Just try Libre Office ... IMO it's more powerful than MSO (especially on large documents / spreadsheets). If you prefer the ribbon, then they are actually in the process of redesigning the UI. But for me, I'm no great lover of the ribbon - it's less efficient than even toolbars (but I prefer keyboard shortcuts).

As mentioned in a previous post here: The only items from MSO which I consider worth-while is Outlook and Access. Though an update: Outlook is entirely replaceable using Thunderbird (at least as far as I'm concerned). Access is still king of the DBMS GUI's, Libre-Office's Base is getting closer - but still a bit lacking in functionality.

As for Word/Excel/Power Point ... IMO it's a no-brainer ... Libre Office Write / Calc / Impress is simply "better". I even use them when I'm forced on Windows, even if I'm given a PC with MSO pre-installed - my first order of business is to install a portable version of LO (so it's easy to remove if I need to leave the PC clean).
LibreOffice is also on my system. It is nowhere near the consistency in formatting text using MS Office's word.
I do use libreoffice for presentations, spreadsheets and writing. They are fine for home use. Over time, LO will improve. A java product is always slow to format text. With dual and quadcore systems, that slowness is less a problem. With LO I would like to see "What you see is what you print."
 
Old 01-03-2013, 11:01 AM   #4923
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How about "Cropper"? Nice little sizable screen grabber.
I use it on my "work" computer because I "HAVE TO" on the corporate net.
It is pretty nice. I find myself wanting to use it on my home linux desktops.
http://cropper.codeplex.com/
 
Old 01-03-2013, 02:27 PM   #4924
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ffmpeg will record your desktop or part of it with sound any way you want.
There is also Xvidcap, recordmydesktop, istanbul, wink.....

http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/05...x-desktop.html
http://www.wikihow.com/Record-Your-D...n-Ubuntu-Linux
 
Old 01-03-2013, 08:37 PM   #4925
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My screen grabber favourite is snagit. Capture any part of the screen and immediately do what you want with the capture, from editing it to having it merged into a wordprocessor document.
 
Old 01-04-2013, 05:05 AM   #4926
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Since I have worked with (relational) databases since the mid 190s, ...
I'm with you on most of your comments. An MDB file was never intended to be used as a "decent" relational DB. I've used Borland Paradox previously and even that had less hangups than Access 97. Access 2003 seemed to resolve a lot of those issues, though the concurrency corruptions were still prevalent.

If I am only going to make some arb small database then Access / LO Base -built-in DB drivers are fine. I think LO-Base uses SQLite internally. But both Access and LO-Base can link to nearly any other DBMS system as a client GUI e.g. MS-SQL, MySQL, ProstGRE, Interbase, Firebird, or any other with OBDC drivers. Or even in LO-Base's case using JDBC drivers as well. If using more than 10-20 tables with relational links, and/or more than 1 concurrent user I'd advise using a true DBMS (i.e. client-server-like) in all instances - no MDB/Paradox/SQLite/etc. is going to work perfectly in that case.

I just like Access's GUI more than anything else I've seen. Especially it's Form / Report creation is simply miles ahead of anything else. Queries are also not to be smirked at with a simple QBE/SQL and graphical linking of tables - makes for easier non-expert usage.

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It is nowhere near the consistency in formatting text using MS Office's word.
Strange, I've actually found it the other way round, inconsistent formatting with Word when you open it on a different PC. But then again, I use Styles next to 99.999999% of the time, in both Write and Calc. To me Word / Excel's styles look like kinder-garden toys in comparison.

If you mean inconsistent formatting of DOC/DOCX files between Word/Write, then I'm with you. But that's a error from MS's side. You even get inconsistent formatting if you open a 2003 DOC file in 2007 and visa-versa. No wonder another company's program can't handle MS's file formats properly if even they can't do so themselves.

I only send DOC files if the reciepient specifically asks for such. Otherwise I give them PDF's or the original ODT files - much more consistent than DOC. Not to mention LO can include the original ODT file inside the PDF, so you can open edit and resave the PDF without losing functionality / consistency.

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A java product is always slow to format text. With dual and quadcore systems, that slowness is less a problem.
LO is mostly written in C++. Java is only one of its extension writing languages (like VBA used to be in MSO). You can even use LO without installing any JVM in your computer - though that would mean some of the extensions are not going to work.

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Old 01-09-2013, 07:35 AM   #4927
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Angry

An app that kills all but Open apps...LOL\jk
 
Old 01-09-2013, 05:17 PM   #4928
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adobe suite: photoshop, ...
 
Old 01-10-2013, 05:21 AM   #4929
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statistics ...

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SPSS ../.. any specific statistics program for linux that's interoperable with SPSS (university requirement) .../...
You got it ! (since '70s) SAS_system
 
Old 01-12-2013, 01:13 AM   #4930
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Same experience from me. Even most software/games are now in download form - no more discs. It's just movies which come on the BD's, and even there the HD on-demand downloads seem to become more prevalent by the day.

Previously we used BD's as archival storage (due to large graphics files we would typically need about 5 BD's for a single archive, so DVD's simply didn't cut the cake). But the major issue was actually finding blank discs - it's very seldom an item you can buy off the shelf like a spindle of DVD's.

I'm not seeing a lot of new BD writers either. No big hu-ha as there used to be about CD / DVD burners, concerning speed / robustness. From this I gather it's not an item which sells a lot - thus suppliers don't focus such efforts as they used to on CD / DVD. Much more prevalent are stuff like external hard drives / USB sticks / flash cards, which seem to be the portable storage of choice these days.
I appreciate and partially understand your philosophical views on Blu-Ray technology being obsolete, but there are people like me who use it to backup & distribute large files requiring the BD/UDF combo. What is the alternative? Hard Disks? USB memory? Hardly an inexpensive medium to archive/distribute large files. Where I live the BD media is cheap and easily ordered online and delivered the next day.

Thanks for the pointer to Silicon Empire which I had never heard about. Another QT beast... maybe I can compare K3B next to it.
 
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:07 AM   #4931
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Same experience from me. Even most software/games are now in download form - no more discs. It's just movies which come on the BD's, and even there the HD on-demand downloads seem to become more prevalent by the day.
And that's going to hit a wall for anyone on the various ISPs that want to implement bandwidth caps (Comcast/Xfinity for example). There's going to be a lot of gamers who will have to either abandon their gaming or pay exorbitent overage fees when they find themselves running over halfway through the month. I tried setting up World of Warcraft on my wife's laptop through our Crapcast connection, it kept hanging up. I ended up having to use mb brother's FIOS connection to do the install, and there it was *20 GB* to install! Besides the massive download size and time, I don't like the idea that I have to fill up my hard disk with their bloated games.
 
Old 01-13-2013, 08:45 AM   #4932
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Besides the massive download size and time, I don't like the idea that I have to fill up my hard disk with their bloated games.
How do you want to play games if you don't want to install them?
 
Old 01-13-2013, 10:56 PM   #4933
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What is the alternative? Hard Disks? USB memory? Hardly an inexpensive medium to archive/distribute large files. Where I live the BD media is cheap and easily ordered online and delivered the next day.
You're lucky. Here it takes a week minimum and the price is nearly the same as for a portable external 500GB HDD. Actually a similarly sized (32GB) USB "Stick" costs about the same as the BD blank.

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I ended up having to use mb brother's FIOS connection to do the install, and there it was *20 GB* to install!
Ouch! That must've hurt! Even the "best" ISP over here with an "uncapped" 4MB/s ADSL = ZAR 1700 /m = US$ 195 / m. And then they're going to soft-cap you after 10GB, down to 384 kB/s for the rest of the month. And I thought I had it bad with the AutoDesk (AutoCAD & Revit) downloads of 4GB each! (Notice "best" in quotes: that's because I've tested this one before and speedwise it's CR@P, not to mention that doesn't include the "line-rental").

Actually for me it would have been a lot more expensive, since I'm on a 8MB/s capped prepaid 3G @ ZAR 500 / 3GB = US$ 57 / 3GB ~ US$ 380 to do that one download! Just now realized that they have a new special on the contracts - used to be within 1% of the prepaid cost. Perhaps time to change, though it's going to be a 2 year contract for that.

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Old 01-14-2013, 10:49 AM   #4934
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How do you want to play games if you don't want to install them?
The way you **USED** to play them: with a minimal runtime on the HDD, and the rest of the game running from the CD/DVD.
 
Old 01-14-2013, 11:18 AM   #4935
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The way you **USED** to play them: with a minimal runtime on the HDD, and the rest of the game running from the CD/DVD.
I never used to do it that way, because it slows down the game, is unnecessary stress on the DVD drive and has impacts on the game experience. Besides that, with the size of modern games (some of my favorites, GTA IV, Skyrim and Fallout: New Vegas take up >20 GB each) it would occur that in the middle of the game a message appears like "Please insert DVD 2 and press Enter". Bang, immersion to the game gone, happy playing.
 
  


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