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Old 09-18-2012, 08:33 PM   #4846
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iTunes is not an open source program and Apple don't want Linux users to have access to iTunes, so there is no chance other than using a VM (iTunes will not work correctly with Wine) with Windows or dual-boot to Windows if you want to use iTunes.
 
Old 09-20-2012, 12:02 PM   #4847
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Really Linux need an strong and good sound editor like Nuendo or Cubase, or maybe like Pro tool...
I have wanted to move my studio over to linux platform for several years but all alternative fails to match up with my Cubase SX :/
however here follows a list of applications that i have used and have been somewhat happy with:

http://ardour.org/
http://www.openoctave.org/
http://qtractor.sourceforge.net/qtractor-index.html
 
Old 09-21-2012, 11:33 PM   #4848
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I would like to see Cain and Abel at least being able to be ported into Backtrack for penetration testers, just for it's simplistic GUI and the ability to save time of using multiple tools through CLI such as nmap, wireshark, armitage, etc.
 
Old 09-28-2012, 01:01 AM   #4849
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I created an app similar to 2nd Speech Center and ReadAloud Text-To-Speech software that reads aloud text from the clipboard. It's called JSpeak.

http://linuxinnovations.blogspot.com...to-speach.html

Source, Binary and wiki available at:

https://github.com/bullshark/jspeak
 
Old 10-01-2012, 03:45 PM   #4850
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An interactive firewall for Linux like the Kerio firewall for Xp.

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Old 10-02-2012, 09:57 AM   #4851
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Wink Can't depend on the vendor to port their software....

But it's more the other way around, Linux should be able to run any windows apps "natively" (no wine, vodka or whatever). This would finally make Linux a serious threat to windows. Until then, Linux will stay in the server room (which it makes an superb job). The vendors can't spend millions for a ~2% market share; especially a market that wants to get thing for free. It's just business sense.

But if I had a wish, MS Office, Adobe Suite, AutoCAD and Inventor, SQL Server, Visual Studio, Dream, Simply Accounting and everything else used in an office today. Let's not forget the drivers.

And don't tell me wine runs some of those, cause I don't want anything to do with wine. I don't want an extra layer between my app and the OS.
 
Old 10-02-2012, 10:26 AM   #4852
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But it's more the other way around, Linux should be able to run any windows apps "natively" (no wine, vodka or whatever).
That is like asking that your plane should also run on diesel fuel, just because you want so. Linux is not Windows and that is a good thing.

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The vendors can't spend millions for a ~2% market share; especially a market that wants to get thing for free. It's just business sense.
Absolutely, Linux users want to get anything for free, that is why Red Hat makes millions, Linux users paid more than Windows/MacOS X users on the Indie Humble Bundles, Desura is flourishing and Steam is finally ported to Linux. Seems that your business sense is better than the one of Gabe Newell, who is running a multi million dollar company, or better than the business sense of Oracle's business department.
 
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:21 PM   #4853
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Linux should be able to run any windows apps "natively" (no wine, vodka or whatever).
I'm with you on the "It SHOULD". The problem is it "can't". The reason behind this is from M$'s side:

M$ made libraries for use on their OS's (since the very first windows). As other companies started making programs to run on this, they tended to use those libraries directly (instead of re-inventing the wheel each time). This is a good thing, usually the OS's libraries are more efficient and robust than a hodgepodge of different libs made by various programmers with varying degrees of proficiency.

Now for the bad part: Usually M$ make these libraries as pre-compiled (i.e. closed-source) files. You can see it as being built-into the OS itself. So in the great many situations, there's no way to know for sure "how" those libraries accomplish what they do. At best there's documentation about how to use them, not how to create them. This has some nasty side-effects:

  1. No-one but the M$ programmers can check if there are any faults in them (unlike Linux's libraries which are open to everyone - and thus tends to become much more robust and efficient over time as different programmers see faults or better ways of doing things while looking through those in their spare time).
  2. While M$ has a huge army of programmers, they'll very seldom go look over old code. A commercial venture doesn't have the time to "fix-what-isn't-broken". Thus you tend to find lots of bugs and useless code bloating the system as old (not-so-good) libraries are left as is, and mostly only new features are added to compete in the market place.
  3. These old libraries may cause some unexpected interaction with newer programs or even newer libraries. Sometimes programs use this as a "feature".
  4. New libraries may add to older ones, or replace them, or work in parallel with them, or any combination thereof. Thus a program may use different versions at the same time.
  5. M$ has a tendency to attempt not to remove old libraries, since they want to have back-ward compatibility (i.e. allow old programs to still run). Recently Vista & 7 removed some older libs, thus many old programs would fail to run on them.
  6. Etc.etc.etc. ... many such hassles arise from this behemoth which is M$'s 20+ year old set of codes.
Now from the Linux side, this causes further issues. All the "native" Linux libraries work differently from the M$ versions (even if their end-result is the same). So a program written specifically for windows has a near 0% chance of running direct in Linux. So there's next to no possibility of a windows-native-program running on top of Linux.



In comes the guys from WinE: They test the compiled libraries found in windows, then attempt to write them from scratch (i.e. a reverse-engineering task). What should occur is that the WinE libraries simply map the linux native libraries to "look-n-feel" like the native windows libraries. Thus a program "thinks" it's still running perfectly inside Windows. Unfortunately, WinE is developed a bit slower than M$ can push out their libs, for the simple fact that they can only start when M$ is finished - but also because they work on a hit-n-miss method: try-something-see-if-it-works-edit-if-not-check-if-edit-causes-other-issues-rework-again-to-bypass-problems-rinse-n-repeat (not to mention: they need to take note not to "infringe" on M$'s copy-rights ).


So due to this, many new programs won't run through WinE. They tend to "use" the newer Windows libs, which hasn't been implemented inside WinE as yet. You usually find there's about a 5 year lag on average. And even if they seem to work, there's usually some small (or sometimes large) hiccup due to some weird unexpected / hidden "feature" in the windows libs, which was never picked up when the current version of WinE was written.


Thus there's 2 ways of going about it (if you really want to get out of windows): (1) re-invent windows from scratch to work exactly like the newer versions (a lot of these attempts were made and failed dismally, e.g. FreeDows, or further along ReactOS); (2) rather than re-invent the whole thing use an existing OS and build on top of it (i.e. WinE) - thus you only need to worry about the interface between the program & the OS (i.e. the libs). The last one has a much better chance of success, though that chance is still too low to use as production quality.


The only other "sure-fire" way to get decent programs in Linux, is to get the vendors to actually write their programs "for" Linux and use the native Linux libraries directly. Those programs will then not be able to run on top of Windows (directly). There are ways, like CygWin/Winelib (basically the reverse of WinE, but better since the Linux libraries are known pre-hand and don't need to be reverse-engineered). Thus it's actually "easier" for vendors to write for Linux and allow to run on multiple OS's. They won't go there until Linux has a greater market share, and the market share won't increase until there's more programs available to run on Linux . Also their programmers are by now extremely used to writing for Windows, especially the DotNet programmers.



Some (mostly open-source) programs also have a tendency to write "portable" programs. Some would do exactly as stated above: i.e. write for Linux, then package together with something like CygWin so it can also run on windows. Other write their own wrappers (or other wrappers created by other vendors) around the OS libs, then write the main portion of their programs to use those wrappers (FireFox/ThunderBird/SunBird/SeaMonkey/SongBird using the Mozilla libraries jumps to mind here). Others use a "portable" compiler like the Delphi/Kylix duo, MingW, Qt, Lazarus, etc.- to write their source once and then simply click the compile button for each OS in turn - these generally have a similar idea to the Mozilla libraries.


Unfortunately, all those "solutions" mean huge quantities of work for programmers. Basically throwing away the old windows-specific code (which could be decades worth of work for hundreds of programmers - e.g. AutoCAD since 1980, 1993-release 11 in windows), and starting over. Or at best convert huge portions to use more portable libraries. So the investment needed by vendors is too high, unless they can see a modicum of profitability.
 
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:18 PM   #4854
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Todolist from http://www.abstractspoon.com

There's tons of "todo" software, but this one really kicks butt.

I now use an alternative which is also very good, called Taskcoach
 
Old 10-02-2012, 11:16 PM   #4855
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Unfortunatly, MACs have a better emulator then wine.

Its best to find open source alternatives or to put an old OEM XP operating system on virtual box.

If your Unix or linux has port jails, use them too.

The best thing to do is google "linux equilivent to (name of M$ application)
 
Old 10-03-2012, 03:02 PM   #4856
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That is like asking that your plane should also run on diesel fuel, just because you want so. Linux is not Windows and that is a good thing.




Absolutely, Linux users want to get anything for free, that is why Red Hat makes millions, Linux users paid more than Windows/MacOS X users on the Indie Humble Bundles, Desura is flourishing and Steam is finally ported to Linux. Seems that your business sense is better than the one of Gabe Newell, who is running a multi million dollar company, or better than the business sense of Oracle's business department.
- BY NGC_666 -I'm not the only one who wants that. All my clients ask the same thing when they ask about Linux DESKTOP, does it run my current apps as good as in Windows, not really is my answer, so far. And so it will be really hard for Linux DESKTOP to replace Windows. I'm not saying make a Windows OS, but run their apps.

- BY NGC_666 -As for RedHat and the others, I should have been more precise. DESKTOP Linux users like the free stuff. RedHat is making their money from the Server room, which I have quote that Linux was doing a superb job. Don't mixed things.

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Old 10-03-2012, 03:30 PM   #4857
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- BY NGC_666 -I'm not the only one who wants that. All my clients ask the same thing when they ask about Linux DESKTOP, does it run my current apps as good as in Windows, not really is my answer, so far. And so it will be really hard for Linux DESKTOP to replace Windows. I'm not saying make a Windows OS, but run their apps.
Again, Linux is not Windows, it is not intended to replace Windows and it is not intended to run Windows apps. It is a whole different OS, not simply a "free version" of Windows (I wonder why the same people won't complain that they can't run iOS apps on Android). If you want to be able to run any Windows application on Linux you have to offer the exact same environment for that application, including any shortcomings and flaws, in implementation and design. It is simple as that: If your customers want to run Windows apps then recommend to run them on Windows. Otherwise try to offer them a migration path that not only includes the Linux OS but also the applications.

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- BY NGC_666 -As for RedHat and the others, I should have been more precise. DESKTOP Linux users like the free stuff. RedHat is making their money from the Server room, which I have quote that Linux was doing a superb job. Don't mixed things.
OK, lets put the server part aside and concentrate on the desktop. So I have to adapt my statements a little:
Linux:
- Linux users paid more in average for the Indie Humble Bundles than Windows/MacOS X users.
- Linux users are paying 50$ for a Slackware DVD set although they can download it for free. Replace Slackware with Zorin, OS4 or other vendors of commercial consumer Linux distributions.
- Linux users buy games on Desura, ask GOG.com to sell Linux versions of their games and the marketshare seems still to be big enough that a mayor player from the Windows side, Valve, ports their Steam platform to Linux to sell there games (and nowadays other applications), too.
- You rarely see a Linux version of a game or application on the torrent and warez sites.

Windows:
- As soon as a game/application is released it can be found on torrent and warez sites, so that every Windows user who wants can download them for, ehhm, free.
- Freeware is one of the major distribution methods for malware on Windows, so there must be large percentage of people who want get their things for, guess it, free.

In short, your claim that Linux users, even if you limit that to the desktop, want to get anything for free is proven wrong and invalid. In fact, any consumer wants to get the things he buys for the best price he can (maybe not true for Apple customers ), but it seems that the average Linux user is willing to pay more than the average Windows user for the same thing.
 
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Old 10-03-2012, 03:50 PM   #4858
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:02 AM   #4859
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for copying the data from server to Pen drive ! TB

I want to copy fast from my server to PEN DRIVE 1 TB is there any program who can copy 1TB data fast

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This thread is for letting vendors know that there is interest in porting one of their programs to Linux. Let us know what programs you would like to see ported and why. Details such as how much you would be willing to pay may be helpful as well. If there is enough interest for certain programs I will even contact the vendor myself.

--jeremy
 
Old 10-04-2012, 06:51 AM   #4860
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The data rate when copying to USB is limited by the hardware, not the software, so an application won't help you here to get it faster. If you have the chance add an USB 3.0 card to the system and buy an USB 3.0 enclosure for that harddisk, or use eSATA.
 
  


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