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Old 03-29-2009, 07:24 PM   #3646
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L.O.L.! XD Yep, FloridaBSD, Debian is dreadfully slow in production.
This is ridiculous. Ubuntu is based on Debian, and besides that *ALL* distributions are ~99% the exact same software. I've been using LINUX daily since kernel version 0.99 and have never seen a large documented / reproducible performance delta between different distributions of the same vintage.

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Maybe Mark Shuttleworth should buy 'em out! That would move production up a bit!
It would certainly generate allot of fanboy feinting. Setting aside the facts that (a) Ubuntu is based on Debian and (b) no one can buy Debian (it is not a for-profit corporation) the Ubuntu community is hardly a well-spring of original work and kernel heavy hitters. IBM and HP both qualify [easily, by any metric] as larger contributors to Open Source than Cannonical. Ubuntu is a perfectly fine distribution - but the level of fanboy adoration is just silly.

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I just wanted the codecs for Q.T., and iToons, so that all of us would eventually benefit. The new Songbird App looks really nice as a 1.1. It's still too rough around the edges yet, though. ... Soon, if Songbird can get to flight, and make URL radio tranferrals into its radio easier (like in Rhythmbox & Banshee),
Songbird has been under development with no substantial progress for years. Why not just use Rhythmbox or Banshee which have active development and user communities? Why wait for Songbird? Time has clearly passed it by.

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it'll blow iToons out of the cyber-water!
It won't touch iTunes. iTunes is backed by the iTunes service (and Apple) which weds most of it's users to the application as a front-end.

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As an app, let's see Photoshop directly ported to Linux!
Why? Seriously? The first thing anyone brings up in one of these conversations is Photoshop. But what percentage of computer users use Photoshop? I'd confidently guess it isn't even 1% (one in a hundred). Of the three photoshop users I know - none of which are average computer users - the one that has seriously tried GIMP uses it without any issues at all and says he even prefers certain aspects of it. There just isn't any need for Photoshop to be ported to LINUX - LINUX provides a collection of very high quality image editing tools. People who aren't interesting in trying an alternative application certainly will have no interest in trying an alternative Operating System - just write those people off and concentrate on battles you can win (as nothing can defeat intellectual stagnation).
 
Old 04-02-2009, 06:54 PM   #3647
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One Tool I'd like to see:....

1. IRFANVIEW or a similar utility. Irfanview is a graphic file viewer that is very fast and can view just about any image file (and a lot of other things besides). It plays mpegs, and audio files too.

I have not found anything like it in Linux, and it would make my computer forensic work much easier.

2. ENCASE (Guidance Software) I would like to see the full forensic examination tool ported to Linux. Guidance has already done some work in this direction I think... The LINEN disk image acquisition tool is already a linux tool - and is included on recent HELIX distribs.

3. Some good network management tools (and maybe I am displaying my ignorance here and just haven't found any yet!). Tools like Solarwinds Engineers toolset... or a Open source equivalent that can interrogate switches, routers,...etc and provide pretty graphics of net performance to take to staff meetings!
 
Old 04-03-2009, 12:55 AM   #3648
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One Tool I'd like to see:....

1. IRFANVIEW or a similar utility. Irfanview is a graphic file viewer that is very fast and can view just about any image file (and a lot of other things besides). It plays mpegs, and audio files too.

I have not found anything like it in Linux, and it would make my computer forensic work much easier.

2. ENCASE (Guidance Software) I would like to see the full forensic examination tool ported to Linux. Guidance has already done some work in this direction I think... The LINEN disk image acquisition tool is already a linux tool - and is included on recent HELIX distribs.

3. Some good network management tools (and maybe I am displaying my ignorance here and just haven't found any yet!). Tools like Solarwinds Engineers toolset... or a Open source equivalent that can interrogate switches, routers,...etc and provide pretty graphics of net performance to take to staff meetings!
Gwenview (http://gwenview.sourceforge.net/overview) is perhaps the Linux counterpart of IrfanView, but it won't do movie files as far as I can see.
I think it is unwise to use these programs for computer forensics unless you really know what you are doing; one wrong click and the evidence has been permanently contaminated by a disk write by for example image rotation. Take your hints (take disk image from target, do forensics on disk image) from the Helix forensics toolkit here, which you are already using.

As far as Encase, I thought this was provided with Helix, but to be honest I can't remember right now and I do not have my disc with me at the moment either. That said however, Perhaps it is an idea to tell the Helix team that you would be interested in this tool, and then they could see if contract is possible between them and Encase. Of course.. if you wish for Helix to become better at what it does, you need to/should support their efforts. They have closed the doors on the community not long ago in favour of paid subscription, and are looking for sponsors to continue development.
 
Old 04-03-2009, 04:34 PM   #3649
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IRFANVIEW and Forensics:

Irfanview has its place in forensics, but (As you rightly point out) one has to be careful to avoid damaging evidence (fastest way to lose a case!).

The trick is to use IRFANVIEW and any other data viewer ONLY on a COPY of the evidence. I use forensic copies - Often with Encase, or with dd. I like the Encase approach because it fingerprints everything to detect any damage, and it is easy to defend in court.

We use Irfanview as a viewing tool for the investigator that has to trawl through the images after they have been extracted from the disk image with either various unix/linux tools or with tools like Encase or ftk. IRFAN view is quite stable, and rarely crashes even on a corrupt jpg image. Encase can crash on a bad image, and that crash can damage the files where the records are kept (The Encase "case" file). The evidence remains safe, but recreating a case is a LOT of work! It is far safer to export the images and use IRFANVIEW to trawl through them.

All of which is why I would like to see a linux version of both Irfanview and Encase. (The ENCASE tool in HELIX ("LINEN") is just the disk image acquisition tool, not full Encase. It replaces Encase's older dos-based acquisition tools). LINEN is a really cool imager, though,... and it's fast. In the case of ENCASE, I would be more than willing to buy it if they made it available. The greatest weaknesses of Encase arise in the "Well-known commercial OS" that it runs under!

Thanks for the tip on gwenview. I'm looking it up!
 
Old 04-06-2009, 10:41 AM   #3650
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Why? Seriously? The first thing anyone brings up in one of these conversations is Photoshop. But what percentage of computer users use Photoshop? I'd confidently guess it isn't even 1% (one in a hundred). Of the three photoshop users I know - none of which are average computer users - the one that has seriously tried GIMP uses it without any issues at all and says he even prefers certain aspects of it. There just isn't any need for Photoshop to be ported to LINUX - LINUX provides a collection of very high quality image editing tools. People who aren't interesting in trying an alternative application certainly will have no interest in trying an alternative Operating System - just write those people off and concentrate on battles you can win (as nothing can defeat intellectual stagnation).
When I googled for some irrevielant information, I found a link to your forum, thought maybe even if it is offtopic here, I will find some info. Then if it was open, I looked around a bit. Why?

Linux is quite common as an OS, if you see set top boxes, TV sets, etc that has a linux kernel installed and some linux based software. But on desktop markets I see linux as not so popular, and whenever I tried it I was disappointed. I have some VMs with linux ready, but I rarely use them. Often, when I run into a problem, I look fo some support, and see: when I use a comercial software (lets use vBulletin for example), I keep support, since my $s count for the developer. When I look at Open Source Software, where mostly fans help with support: They defend their software and doesn't help.

If you don't see the weaknesses in your software, you don't improve. And after a period of time, your chances at success will be limited by: how many people are willing to give linux based solutions after another try after being disappointed a few times, after hearing how it will spread in a few years for over a decade.

GIMP and other linux based tools can be excellent software, but if they don't have some functionality you NEED, and when you explain what you NEED you only hear it is excellent, you won't use GIMP, you won't use linux.

And when the linux community doesn't want to support environments where both windows and linux are used, you won't use linux either. Not even on boxes where it would be an excellent choice.

GIMP (and other linux based programs) are different from Photoshop in functionality. If we also speak about the whole creative suite, and we see we don't only use it for fun, or for web graphics, but try to prepare stuf for prints, work with video (when you use photoshop + afterffects + premiere pro), do medical imaging, etc you will see your favorite image manipulation problem will not work well.

So for this reason I think a native photoshop would be nice. Or let me word it more precisely: Adobe Creative Suite should be ported, yes, the whole shebang.

But again: when people suggest linux, they say it is easy to switch, since most users don't need to know it from inside out, and most users don't even know their current OS inside out, you can pick up how to use it in matter of weeks.

Learning all the tricks to make you competitive with photoshop, illustrator, indesign, premiere, etc. can take years. People would consider spending a few weeks of training to try out linux but wouldn't want to relearn stuff that took them years to learn. Noone would finance the time you spend with learning instead of working efficiently.

So even if you would find a good replacement for the whole adobe crative suite for the whole process, with just as good integration, etc. you would see training time a problem.

Lots of people say: OpenOffice.org is a good replacement for office. I have it installed, and for some documents I would prefer it over office since it has certain advantages, and if you use some (not so basic) functionality it is more efficient. But in many cases the Microsoft Office product line is better. We speak about small differences there, much smaller than in the case of Photoshop vs GIMP.

And I was willing to learn both tools. But I know, even to get to this decision, checking OpenOffice took considerable time spent with trying it instead of working with it.

And if you don't make money in your work time that is part of the cost for the choice and it can make OpenOffice a bad choice in many scenarios. But if it is a problem for 3% of users at your organization, and want compatibility, and MS Office wouldn't create such problems, it won't be 97% OpenOffice and 3% MS Office... It will probably end up with 100% MS Office.

And when people tried out OpenOffice, seen how much problems it created, how much time wasted they won't give you another try.

When people want to try Linux and GIMP and run in many walls, and some of the problems cannot be solved for them in reasonable time, their lost work time, lost customers cost them far more than using Windows and Photoshop, they won't consider linux, and they won't trust you. When you say it is better now, they will ignore you.

And the higher percentage of users deciding they don't give a chance to linux, the worse it is.

Of course the more users decide they don't want to give MS another chance it is worse for MS as well. And it is true if they create the problems for themself. Some MS software is easy to use, but hard to master. And if you don't learn them well, you run into problems, and I understand people who no longer want to take risks because they can't know when they do things right.

If we look at how linux and windows compete, I think the outcome is determined by people who say "I never try this ... again."

And if linux want to be strong, they would need Photoshop, and maybe they would need a better office suite too.
 
Old 04-06-2009, 10:22 PM   #3651
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as per title of the thread:

games, games, and more games. its the only reason windows still exists on my machine, just to run games.

actually the games dont seem to be causing the issue... i have CS:S running, though not entirely stable due to steam updates. and it is possible to get COD4 and BF2 to work - however punkbuster anti-cheat software will not run in linux so i would not be able to play online.
 
Old 04-13-2009, 09:38 AM   #3652
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Is there a Linux program that can open M$ Access files? I know OpenOffice has Base, but the last time I checked it, the files weren't compatible with it.
 
Old 04-14-2009, 01:33 PM   #3653
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As a brand-new (beginning) Linux user, I'll have to admit that most of the stuff on this terrific forum is going way over my head...but, with lots of help and patience, I hope to become a good (Ubuntu) user. Installed it as sole OS on my laptop but, as the newsletter editor for the local computer club, which members are (still) devoted to Windows, I still run that OS on my work system as to be able to stay parallel with that 100-member's organization.
I'm doing a lot of reading on Ubuntu and plan to highlight the advantages of switching away from Windows first in my newsletter and, after that, in demos of Ubuntu's capacities in General- and SIG meetings.
Need lots of help, fellas!
Ton
 
Old 04-14-2009, 09:49 PM   #3654
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I think the biggest gap between a Linux OS and Mac OS or Win OS is a compatible Autodesk and Adobe suite. I mean full suite, including comparable 3dsmax and Illustrator for Adobe. As a design professional, I find it very difficult to switch to Linux as ALL my work depends on Autodesk and Adobe products - products that I have invested years in learning.

For example, I have been learning 3D rendering in 3dsmax for 2 years now. I would love to be able to use 3dsmax and AutoCAD on Linux. I'm not into learning a complete new set of software...although with this recession it might be a good time to reconsider.

So in the end, the 'switch' will only happen when a professional design suite is offered that is also compatible with Autodesk and Adobe as many consultants will keep using them.

J
 
Old 04-15-2009, 12:44 AM   #3655
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Autocad clone

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I think the biggest gap between a Linux OS and Mac OS or Win OS is a compatible Autodesk and Adobe suite. I mean full suite, including comparable 3dsmax and Illustrator for Adobe. As a design professional, I find it very difficult to switch to Linux as ALL my work depends on Autodesk and Adobe products - products that I have invested years in learning.

For example, I have been learning 3D rendering in 3dsmax for 2 years now. I would love to be able to use 3dsmax and AutoCAD on Linux. I'm not into learning a complete new set of software...although with this recession it might be a good time to reconsider.

So in the end, the 'switch' will only happen when a professional design suite is offered that is also compatible with Autodesk and Adobe as many consultants will keep using them.

J
You need to look at Argon by
http://www.graebert.com/index.php?op...20%26%20UMPC#5 This is the closest you will get to Acad. I have been running autocad since Version 3.1 this German program has exactly the same command structure as Acad. It will not be available in Linux until later this summer. But you should get the windows version and familiarize your self with the program before the Linux version comes out later this summer. I get the program free as a beta tester for the windows version.
If you sign up for beta testing of the Linux version. You will receive after the final release a fully functional licensed copy of the final release as payment for your beta testing. Take a look you will be amazed at the similarity.

Jim Glover
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Old 04-15-2009, 09:11 AM   #3656
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Good Luck

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As a brand-new (beginning) Linux user, I'll have to admit that most of the stuff on this terrific forum is going way over my head...but, with lots of help and patience, I hope to become a good (Ubuntu) user. Installed it as sole OS on my laptop but, as the newsletter editor for the local computer club, which members are (still) devoted to Windows, I still run that OS on my work system as to be able to stay parallel with that 100-member's organization.
I'm doing a lot of reading on Ubuntu and plan to highlight the advantages of switching away from Windows first in my newsletter and, after that, in demos of Ubuntu's capacities in General- and SIG meetings.
Need lots of help, fellas!
Ton
Good Luck Ton. I've been using Ubuntu for about 5 weeks now. I'm doing 85% of my work now in Linux. There is lots of help out there, and once you understand the terminology, it isn't any harder than Windows. In fact, in terms of just running it, it is easier than windows. My wife is a perfect example of that. My sales pitch to others about it is that I don't have to worry about viruses, spyware, system corruption over time, registry problems, registry cleaners, anti-virus/spyware programs, fragmented hard drives, and all of the wasted time and money from these things, etc. The advantages are clear. If only the rest of the non Linux world understood!!!!!!!!
 
Old 04-15-2009, 09:20 AM   #3657
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Gaming Casinos Poker

I have tried so many but only Pokerstars seem to work well with Wine.

I would like some of the major poker sites to offer full Linix support so I could spend money with them! :-)

I noticed this does not appear in the correct ofrum. I was on a list about what software would you like ported across. Your website asked me to log in so I did, then instead of taking me back, it brought me here.

Last edited by Ampers; 04-15-2009 at 09:22 AM. Reason: The wbesite seems broken
 
Old 04-30-2009, 12:34 AM   #3658
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ADOBE FLASH PLAYER... A WORKING VERSION. followed by...
Adobe Flash CS4
Adobe Photoshop (although I do like gimp)
Microsoft Equation Editor 3.0 compatibility for KWord (export and import)
 
Old 04-30-2009, 12:42 AM   #3659
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Good Luck Ton. I've been using Ubuntu for about 5 weeks now. I'm doing 85% of my work now in Linux. There is lots of help out there, and once you understand the terminology, it isn't any harder than Windows. In fact, in terms of just running it, it is easier than windows. My wife is a perfect example of that. My sales pitch to others about it is that I don't have to worry about viruses, spyware, system corruption over time, registry problems, registry cleaners, anti-virus/spyware programs, fragmented hard drives, and all of the wasted time and money from these things, etc. The advantages are clear. If only the rest of the non Linux world understood!!!!!!!!
Tractor as far as I know Linux is open source... and that means it's easier to find exploits in all those services you are running on your pc. Although they do a pretty good job of patching things right away, I wouldn't necessarily say it's any safer than Windows or Mac.
 
Old 05-01-2009, 04:03 AM   #3660
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@1337: We have an old 1GHz machine here that used to run PhotoShop v7 on XP. Having switched the machine to Kubuntu we thought we'd try PS in Wine. As it turns out it runs really well and faster than in XP. I've heard that CS2 runs in Wine as well but we're not going to buy a copy to try it.

Perhaps success varies on different hardware but based on our success I really wonder why people request PS without apparently trying their current version first. I think it is the most reqested program in this thread.
 
  


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