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Old 02-08-2009, 06:07 AM   #3571
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I don't get your comment. As far as I know, that is not a matter of maybe, maybe not. And as far as I can remember, Wine let you use the regeditor. But that is true or not.
I know there is a registry editor in Wine, it simulates a Windows environment after all, which is heavily dependant on a registry being present.
The maybe, maybe not, refers to whether or not you actually need a Registry cleaner. Sorry If I did not make this part clear, but that was what I was implying.


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Easier than what? Who said what to be easy? What user preference can you apply to having a registry for your Windows programs? A program expect a registry, and Wine handles those API calls. Maybe Wine does use a different kind of storage internally, but that is not visible from the outside, is?

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Easier than cleaning a damaged and or cluttered registry; I said it was easier to destroy the Wine profile when things go bad rather than attempting repair. The Wine profile contains the simulated registry.
Actually I should rephrase that, where are your backups?

Yes, most Windows programs require a registry. Wine provides a registry and it contains the bare neccessities to install and run most known programs.
Wine actually stores the registry in a nice organised fashion, in easily readable files.
See The Wine Wiki page about the registry.

Given the above I do not believe you need to weigh down a good Wine environment with solutions looking for a problem, which is what registry cleaners are.
Most users run precious litle software inside environments like Wine, therefore the quickest bother free solution to a problem is to kill the profile. (or restore a backup of specific files such as the registry files mentioned on the Wiki, where are your backups again? )
 
Old 02-08-2009, 09:14 AM   #3572
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That is almost full agreement now.

I love the sentence where you say "solutions looking for a problem". Sometimes I read those magazines which include an overview of shareware or freely downloadable tools to do something in Windows, UI tweaking, looking at processes, converting image formats etc. Always I get the feeling that either we don't have the problem in Linux since it was not designed in, or we already have the tools, and usually those tools existed before the Windows version emerged. Linux is a huge (cluttered ) toolbox! Windows get marketed and there is a huge spinoff in utilities to fix where Windows failed or omitted tools. Keeps everone happy, isn't it?

And yes, removing the Wine profile and recreating it is a solution. As a matter of fact that is how I have done it. I am in the sad situation that all programs I have tried in Wine do not run satisfactory. I mean those programs which are very specific, not maintained anymore, or where only a few thousand of those are sold. Not even to think of there will ever be a Linux version. It is nice that MsOffice runs in Wine, and maybe DreamWeaver but that is no use. MsOffice in Wine is worse than OpenOffice.

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Old 02-09-2009, 04:04 AM   #3573
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why would you need winzip in linux?
actually i couldnt answer this question until ..

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Probably because while great compression tools exist for Linux platforms, their GUI frontends are lacking.
There is 7-zip, which is a marvellous replacement for Winzip/WinRAR, yet only the Windows port comes with a proper GUI when you install it.
7-zip is available in the p7zip package for Linux, but is CLI only.
File Roller (Gnome) and Ark (KDE) can use the two binaries p7zip puts onto your system to handle 7z archives (and Gna! for RAR archives, if it's still supported/developed.. haven't checked.).
You may have problems accessing split archives from those GUI though, and be forced into the CLI to handle them.
anyways , i really wanna switch to linux badly ... gonna be really soon i believe ...
 
Old 02-09-2009, 11:14 AM   #3574
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Probably because while great compression tools exist for Linux platforms, their GUI frontends are lacking.
There is 7-zip, which is a marvellous replacement for Winzip/WinRAR, yet only the Windows port comes with a proper GUI when you install it.
7-zip is available in the p7zip package for Linux, but is CLI only.
File Roller (Gnome) and Ark (KDE) can use the two binaries p7zip puts onto your system to handle 7z archives (and Gna! for RAR archives, if it's still supported/developed.. haven't checked.).
You may have problems accessing split archives from those GUI though, and be forced into the CLI to handle them.
Update; There appears to be a GUI for 7-zip:

http://k7z.sourceforge.net/7Z/Q7Z/

I haven't tried it, so your mileage may vary.
 
Old 02-09-2009, 01:13 PM   #3575
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MsOffice in Wine is worse than OpenOffice.

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What do you mean by that? As in there's something wrong with MS Office when used with Wine, thus functionality is decreased, and therefore MS Office on Windows is more functional than on Linux? What version of MS Office did you use?

Just wondering because I was doing testing for a company for which I used to work and we had Office 2000 running on SLED 10 no problem...and this was 2007 or so.

I would expect there would be problems with Office 2007 or whatever newest M$ Office bloatware is out now, if that's what you are using. I was able to get Outlook 2003 successfully running under SLED10/Wine with no problems then. I'd expect the same from the rest of the Office 2003 suite.
 
Old 02-09-2009, 05:34 PM   #3576
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What do you mean by that? As in there's something wrong with MS Office when used with Wine, thus functionality is decreased, and therefore MS Office on Windows is more functional than on Linux? What version of MS Office did you use?
It functions, but I just don't like it. Maybe a matter of personal preference. I do use MsOffice in VirtualBox, and I like that better than MsOffice in Wine. It feels kinda whacky, can't really explain.

Added to that, I do prefer Writer over Word because writer is better with autonumbering, [applying] styles, graphic positioning, captions and headings. Not that I don't know how to work with them in Word, I do, but more than once I scr*wed up a documents when I tried to apply styles or heading numbering afterwards. That is a showstopper for me.

Unfortunately OOCalc lacks functionality as compared to Excel.

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Old 02-11-2009, 09:38 AM   #3577
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Program for Linux port

I made the switch to GNU/Linux a little over a year ago, and have come to love Linux. One of my computers still dual boots with M$ XP, as I have 3 boys who love 3D Games, most of which have no Linux port, and won't run in WINE. Ive banned Winbloat from the internet using Comodo Firewall, to help prevent viruses. I use Winbloat for only a single program - 3d Design Home Architect, by Broderbund. If I could run Home Architect in Fedora, I would blow out Microshaft completely.
 
Old 02-11-2009, 07:17 PM   #3578
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Sorry, I couldn't really leave the zip/unzip subject alone.
It seems to me that if one can type well enough to make a whole post here, then it is not difficult to type "zip" or "unzip" on the command line. I honestly don't get it. As for gui frontend: if it is too much trouble to click on a terminal icon, then certainly it would also be too much trouble to right click in Konqueror and choose "extract". I do believe that some of the difficulties that some people encounter are very personal in nature. I know that is true for me.
 
Old 02-14-2009, 06:17 AM   #3579
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Games could also be Ported towards linux right?

Like ehm for instance Unreal Tournament 2003 (Game Of The Year edition), which runs much too different under wine, wine-doors, cedega and crossover...

Just like quake and doom, i think it could be done..
 
Old 02-14-2009, 03:13 PM   #3580
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Games could also be Ported towards linux right?

Like ehm for instance Unreal Tournament 2003 (Game Of The Year edition), which runs much too different under wine, wine-doors, cedega and crossover...

Just like quake and doom, i think it could be done..
Don't they have a linux port for ut 2003?
 
Old 02-15-2009, 07:18 AM   #3581
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Don't they have a linux port for ut 2003?
Yes.

Just like doom and quake. Yet another boring fps, but it runs native in Linux.
 
Old 02-15-2009, 07:17 PM   #3582
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Can we have something like "wordweb"? With an hotkey binding which will take text from clipboard and go to dictionary server.
 
Old 02-15-2009, 10:54 PM   #3583
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Although there is pretty much every Windows app one can install using Wine, I'll still want to see an official port of Free Download Manager for Linux.
 
Old 02-16-2009, 05:13 AM   #3584
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Can we have something like "wordweb"? With an hotkey binding which will take text from clipboard and go to dictionary server.
There are ways to do this without the need for extra software. xbindkeys or your window manager can take care of the binding part, xsel or xclip can be used to read or set the various X selection buffers. About the part to send it to the server, it really depends on the program or the means that you use to do it. You could do it via web or using a specific program.

For example, assuming you want to use firefox with thisonline dictionary and that you have xsel installed, all you need is to use this:

Code:
firefox http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/$(xsel -o)
Select a word with your mouse in a terminal or wherever and then run that command. Firefox should open with a window pointing at that word in the dictionary (assuming that the entry exist). How to bind it to a key depends on your window manager, or you could use xbindkeys as said before.

This is just a basic example.
 
Old 02-16-2009, 07:23 AM   #3585
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Can we have something like "wordweb"? With an hotkey binding which will take text from clipboard and go to dictionary server.
Although not entirely matching your request, there are Firefox extensions with similar functionality over at https://addons.mozilla.org

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