ie is a peice of crap why would anyone want to use it

that is probably why m$ users use it

not only is it but m$ fixes holes by having it ask you to many trivial questions, but still it is "active x" that destroys any security features ie has since with active x you can do sooo much damage

I grant you ie is...what's the word?...worthless? something like that.

But there is one use, for web developers who need to know how bad their nice new standards compliant site looks to the poor soles who haven't been enlightened yet.

And for those who raised the issue of a Linux port, yes you can install it on Linux, easily.

I grant that it isn't a port to Linux, but it's still relatively good. Can have ie 5, 5.5, 6 and 7 (well, the rendering engine for 7) working on the same machine

the project is ie4linux
and can be found at:
http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page

Hope this helps some people out.

(but no, I don't promote ie, and think changing perfectly good sites to run on a dodgy browser is a bad idea, but what can you do)

Don't know why people have wasted so much time and space discussing ie on this forum. I won't even use it in MS Windows.

The app I really want to see ported to Linux is eBay Turbo Lister. One person reported that he thought he had it working (http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-336264.html) but it requires installing (under WINE) the above mentioned... um, app! Anyone else have any info?

Yes, IE has a lot of flaws true, but it has the most functionality that some website must have IE and Windows Media Player to play innocent music, that is nothing on singing and talking blogs,vlogs and whatever logs on how good is Bill Gates, Microsoft, IE , MS Office, WMP etc so I will still definitely use IE as default browser and Firefox is only for video watching so as to fast loading.

I'd like to use flash. But I can't find the simple software as windows.

I'd like to see more web sights ported from being activex/wmp/ie only sights. I guess this wouldn't be necessarily be porting to Linux so much as it would be porting away from proprietary mechanisms designed to work exclusively on one platform (Microsoft's).

Yahoo's Launchcast for example. Huge collection of music and music videos... non of which I've been able to enjoy since I started using Linux.

Yahoo's Launchcast for example. Huge collection of music and music videos... non of which I've been able to enjoy since I started using Linux.[/QUOTE]

Check again. The videos work for me & I'm on linux

Paint.Net and Windows Media Player 11 ! Paint.Net is a free application (0 cost, open-source or not , I am not sure) that can be replace to Photoshop using Net. Framework 2. Windows Media Player is for the needs to watch online TV.

For firefox wise, It might be better if it supports Mac feature of dragging a picture into a folder/desktop to save these pictures. It is really more convient and idiot-proof than Windows/ Linux of Right click-> Save Image (Or similar...)

Are you talking about flash player or about flash development software?
If you are atalking about flash player, then there is an equivalent: Adobe Flash Player (right now I'm using it as flash player/browser plugin). If you are talking about development software, it should probably work with Wine.

"Equivalent" is not the right word here. It's the same program as for Windows, not an "equivalent".

I just load the Mandriva Spring 64Bit on a 64bit system & my flash work fine out of the box.
I did check firefox & yes it's the 64 bit version. How they got flash to work with it I don't know

!!!Is there a 64-bit Linux port of Flash now? The only reason I run the Xubuntu 32-bit version on my 64-bit box is so I can use Flash. Is this something unique to Mandriva? Is there a way to get it to work with other distros?

I don't know if their is a 64bit version of flash or what. I do know that I just checked Firefox see below:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070208 Mandriva/2.0.0.3-2mdv2007.1 (2007.1) Firefox/2.0.0.3


I went out to scifi.com and all flash works & I know that it requires flash 9.