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Old 01-14-2010, 02:49 PM   #4006
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Cosmi Perfect Accountant


Nobody seems to carry this anymore, but it is an outstanding little accounting package IMHO. It has a very Linux-like design, (elegant, less is more, etc.) is really easy to set up, and the interface is clean and very fast.

I bought a copy on a whim for less than $20 a few years ago and still use it. It runs fine under wine, and uses ODBC as a backend. My guess is that porting it to run as a monolithic Linux application would be pretty trivial.

In linux, for consumer grade apps you have GNUcash which is a fricking menace to try and compile. There are a couple of LAMP based packages, but they seem to scale to _really_ big orginizations rather than consumer level, and getting LAMP working properly is another masochistic endeavor altogether.

So if this was ported to linux, it would pretty much be the only monolithic consumer grade accounting package that worked out of the box. And like I said, it already runs fine on wine.

My guess is that it was discontinued due to lack of marketshare on Win32. This product _wants_ to run on linux. I run it X-forwarded over SSH, and it works like a champ. And since it's pretty much a dead product in the Win32 environment, I bet the source could bought for a song. If I had the time/cash I'd do it myself.
 
Old 01-14-2010, 05:41 PM   #4007
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In linux, for consumer grade apps you have GNUcash which is a fricking menace to try and compile.
There is rpm in EPEL repository for CentOS/RHEL, and should also be for Fedora. No compilation needed, just install with yum and use.
 
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Old 01-15-2010, 01:14 AM   #4008
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Artistic Licence.

That is the reason Fedora will not contemplate it with a positive attitude anymore. It is not included in the ISO anymore. The FSF says it is not entirely free since the Artistic Licence has some debatable wording in it. If I read right the authors agreed and it has been re-written, yet the damage has been done. Got this in one of the first links you previously gave me. It is also not maintained anymore.

Then, if it works, I'll use it, just got to lay my hands on it.

But thanks, your answers are highly appreciated. Gets the noodles going.

Will do the latest link later, salt mine's calling.
 
Old 01-15-2010, 03:47 AM   #4009
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That is the reason Fedora will not contemplate it with a positive attitude anymore. It is not included in the ISO anymore. The FSF says it is not entirely free since the Artistic Licence has some debatable wording in it.
Concerning availability, gnucash is part of the Fedora 12 os (base) repository, version 2.2.0-4, and in all the previous versions also, so not being on the ISO is not a problem at all. You just install it with yum. And I hope you are talking about Installation ISO, not about LiveCD versions.

If you are looking for particular package for rpm distributions, check http://rpm.pbone.net/, I use it when I need to find source rpm's to convert from Fedora to CentOS. Even some third party repositories are in the database.

I also googled "gnucash" and found it's site, and on it says that last unstable version was released on 08.Dec.2009.

This is the main reason why there is a lack of database with all the programs for Linux. Someone needs to visit all those sites, or they would need to update it themselves. And if they drop the project, Any of us can use source code to keep going. So unless serious database project is established with constant funding, best is to spend up to 10-60 minutes on search engine like google to find what you are looking for.

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Old 01-18-2010, 02:56 PM   #4010
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I have to apologise here. I did bad posting it seems. I posted on D4X and did not see arbitraryantonum's post on gnucash. I still was on page 267 of this thread.

Thank you DrLove 73, I have gnucash and you may actually get it by simple googling.

Downloader for X is not included in the Fedora installation ISO since the FSF regards the Artistic Licence under which it was issued as non-free, not entirely anyway. That licence has been re-written but d4x is not maintained anymore. All the links I clicked on went to www.karu.ru which is a dead end. After a few of these, I tried all sorts of other links, but with the same result.

If I remember correctly, I was on the d4x wiki and clicked on "Artistic Licence".
 
Old 01-18-2010, 05:39 PM   #4011
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You might be right with D4X. I am not sure what happened, but the last time I looked I THINK I saw a version for Fedora, I did look before posting that is for sure.. I can now see only version for Fedora's up to 9, but RHEL version is still in EPEL, a part of the Fedora controlled RHEL repository. If you really want it, you can try to install a version for Fedora 9. Or if you know how, you can download source rpm from Fedora 9 and compile it on Fedora 12.
 
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Old 01-20-2010, 01:36 AM   #4012
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Thanks, clever idea.

Yes, never thought of it. Don't know how to do the FC 9 thingy, but can just as well try it. Can learn something new anyway. The box is pretty useless right now, so if it crashes no matter.

I think if you google Artistic Licence you may even find a wiki. Very soft bell ringing there. If I remember correctly, the Artistic Licence was under some discussion in the days of the old Amiga A500. That is 500KB RAM. Could, did expand it to 3MB RAM.

Anyway, Free Download Manager - and Orbit for that matter - do speed up downloads. There is one huge difference in time used between the standard Windows download et al and these chappies for same sized files. Molasses in the winter.

On the porting note;
CutePDFWriter would be a good idea. There's a difference. This one prints single pages from worksheets - not the entire file mind you! I have a quotation spreadsheet with something like 20 sheets. The Design sheet has a landscape A4 Page 1 where I draw the kitchen. The cells are small squares like your sums book in little school. This is presented to the client.

Then you have codes like F600D4 which is a 4 drawer floor cupboard, 600 millimetres wide. You can place any code anywhere on the page. The picking routines, on the same sheet, sort out what cupboards and how many of the same you put into the room. Everything cascades from here to Quotation, Units, Parts, Orders and so on. All these sheets have some sort of computerese and only specific pages need to be printed. Especially if you e-mail.

To put everything on different sheets is a no-no. Very difficult to maintain and scan for errors in a commercial environment. The references and pointers are nightmares as it is already.

Thanks. Go well.
 
Old 01-20-2010, 06:29 AM   #4013
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CUPS has "Print to file" option, select PDF, add file name and you have PDF. OpenOffice has button on the standard toolbar to export to PDF directly. But it also has a "Export to PDF" in the File menu (should be there) that will give you many options to select, one of them being to print whole document, just one page or just a selection. See if that helps.

Having universal PDF printer like CutePDFWriter would be nice to have.
 
Old 01-21-2010, 12:21 AM   #4014
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Every app I've ever needed was either available for linux or would run under wine. However, I do know other people who would die if their apps weren't available. I'm glad I use gimp, because with photoshop, I would have to dualboot, because I don't think photoshop works under wine.

EDIT: haha it says I'm using a mac. Not really. Well, the iphone os

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Old 01-21-2010, 03:08 AM   #4015
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Every app I've ever needed was either available for linux or would run under wine. However, I do know other people who would die if their apps weren't available. I'm glad I use gimp, because with photoshop, I would have to dualboot, because I don't think photoshop works under wine.
There is no more need for dual boot so much. A lot of programs will work as charmed in Virtual machine. Only hardware related programs will not work, or not work good. And you do need to have lot's of RAM and better CPU.
 
Old 01-21-2010, 03:53 AM   #4016
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Thank you kindly.

The conversation keeps on tripping new ideas. One snag, DrLove, is I don't use OpenOffice. I use Evermore Integrated Office in both flavours.
From MSOffice there is no, but no, learning curve, maybe some slight variations in key shortcuts. Cute and even Primo plug in as printers. Then there's the Science Editor and... but I won't sing the praises. People think I'm trying to sell it.

What I cannot fathom is Sun's thinking when they designed OpenOffice. The Amiga with its Intuitive philosophy was there for all to see. And it had colour palettes. Oh yes, sorry, that was the Gold Disk Office suite from Canada that did that. I've tried thrice now to get over my resistance to OOO in doing mouse drags and scroll-downs just to select a colour and then I have to remember it all for next time - and this goes for several other tasks on the app as well. Is it really all about copyright? Ach well, pity, can't change it now.

Why use Linux when you've got Wine? Then again, it just proves the point that working people need working apps. Time is of the essence.

Anyway, Thanks, all the help is highly appreciated.
 
Old 01-21-2010, 04:20 PM   #4017
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Sibelius! "www.sibelius.com"
If I had this Windows could go.

A "reasonable" price though; under £100.

Consider the market, it's going to be lots of students, music teachers and struggling composers... £600 is not going to sell multiple copies, but £60 will put the competition out of business.
We can argue this until we are blue in the face but some idiot who wrote the business plan thinks he knows better. After all look at all the wealthy composers out there - Andrew Lloyd Webber, Karl Jenkins, John Taverner, ummm ... well maybe that's it. 3 copies sold then?
 
Old 01-22-2010, 07:20 PM   #4018
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Autocad compatible CAD software

I'm living and working in a country where it's very difficult to afford the costs of corporative software.
Recently I have to change the OS of several boxes of the company I perform as a system administrator.
I have to bought some licenses of Windows just because I couldn't find a CAD software that can reach the capability of AutoCAD in the linux world. Autodesk is, in fact, ruling the CAD market.
I felt of course frustrated. Almost every application in Windows was replaced by an excelent linux tool, with the exception of CAD software...
I think that if this application would exist, a great number of bussiness boxes were running a beautiful Linux distro. It's a great deal that I hope some day a software corporation will take.
 
Old 01-25-2010, 12:49 PM   #4019
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Old 01-25-2010, 12:58 PM   #4020
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I'm living and working in a country where it's very difficult to afford the costs of corporative software.
Recently I have to change the OS of several boxes of the company I perform as a system administrator.
I have to bought some licenses of Windows just because I couldn't find a CAD software that can reach the capability of AutoCAD in the linux world. Autodesk is, in fact, ruling the CAD market.
I felt of course frustrated. Almost every application in Windows was replaced by an excelent linux tool, with the exception of CAD software...
I think that if this application would exist, a great number of bussiness boxes were running a beautiful Linux distro. It's a great deal that I hope some day a software corporation will take.
That's an interesting point, especially considering that CAD software originated on Unix. I suspect there are still a number of CAD programs there, I'll see what I can find.

AutoCAD is pretty awesome, though. I wonder if they've ever considered porting

<edit> Here's a comparison. Might want to try some of them, see what you think.
I haven't supported CAD users in... well, let's just say a long time
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...tion_%28AEC%29
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