I've used Mozilla for several years, along with its cousin Phoenix...err...Fireb...err...Firefox. I tried Galeon for a time also, but settled on Mozilla/Firewhatever. Recently I find myself somewhat disenchanted. Mozilla seems pretty slow, scrolls very slowly if I scroll text with the mouse wheel, and most important seems to have a weird bug.

From time to time I find that I can't type text in the location bar. It's as though the keyboard was unplugged from the PC. This has occurred on both my work PC and my home workstation (both running FC 1, but I'm pretty sure that it happened at work when I ran either Moz or Firebird on Windows 2000). If I minimize Mozilla, then restore the problem goes away. I can't pin down a specific set of circumstances but have probably experienced this at least 1-2 times per day.

So, having noticed that my yum-updated FC1 version of Konqueror (which reports 3.1.4-6 Red Hat as the version) is now tabbed browsing enabled, I've thought of switching. With a little effort I imported my bookmarks, and found ways to set things up similar to Mozilla, although the fonts are different. That I can deal with.

However, I've also encountered a weird glitch on Konqueror. On occasion, I can't scroll up or down with the arrow keys, on a particular tab. I can, however, scroll with the mouse wheel. I've opened the same page with another instance of Konqueror and not had the problem. Again, no pattern that I can see, but I've had this happen several times. Weird, but irritating.

It just bugs me. I can see myself at work, where I'm probably the only one in my building using Linux as my primary desktop O/S, showing someone my desktop with a web page open. Question: "What program is that?". Answer: "{Mozilla,Konqueror}, works great. Oops, hold on I have to {minimize and then re-maximize Mozilla,open a instance of Konqueror} for it to work again." Question: "Why would you want to use something like that?" Answer: "Err...I'll have to get back to you on that". Not good.

So...I did a little googling earlier today but didn't see anything. I'm wondering, does anyone else encounter weird problems like this with Mozilla and Konqueror? Surely I'm not the only one. If so, did you find any answers?

try opera then. get the static version.

I've never tried Opera, though I've heard good things. The web site seems to be down at the moment.

I tend to prefer free as in freedom and free as in beer, but sometimes pay for good software.

Konqueror is fast and I like the feel of it--maybe the new Firefox will be fast also. I haven't tried it yet.

I'd prefer to see these two fix their bugs to going to a proprietary alternative.

you don't need to pay for opera if you don't mind a small banner ad in the top right corner of the browser. but it isn't open source.

I havent had both the problems with either Konquerer or Mozilla(just upgraded to 1.6). Also, would you mind telling us whats your computer's config?

I am using a PIII 450MHz, 192MB RAM, ATI Radeon 7000 and I have no problems with scrolling. I am constantly downloading something using KGet, I have XMMS(latest version is kick a$$) always in the background, KSIMs and AMSN messenger. With so many things running simultaneously I still dont have any problem of slow scrolling =). Maybe you're running some unnecessary services.

3-4 years old, hand-me-down laptop. Both work & home PCs are ok on Ram, 256MB, work processor PIII 650 Mhz, home 1.1 Ghz AMD. However, home PC has GE force II with 64MB video Ram, work only has, I think, 4MB video Ram and was noticeably slow at times on Win2k.

I know that I had the slow scrolling on the work PC, not as certain on my recollection for the home PC. Might be a weird thing with video drivers and highly graphic web pages. I'll have to keep some records. The inability at times to type or scroll seems like a lack of window focus. Maybe a subtle bug...if I don't find that others have experienced this possibly an interaction between my particular hardware and specific aps or else KDE 3.1.x on Fedora.

Maybe I'll just live with it for now and see how things are when FC2 has an official release with KDE 3.2.

Oh, and no, I'm not running lots of services, just a couple. Top on both when not in direct heavy use usually shows load average < 0.5% and CPU idle >= 97 or 98 %.

Your video card may be a problem. 4MB of RAM isnt much. But I had a SiS6326 with 4MB of RAM and tried my RedHat system with it and there was a drop in performance but not too much =P.

I have experienced the addressbar thing with various versions of Mozilla (I, too, have experienced 'em all - from the day Netscape released 6.1.1). i don't know what causes it. I've experienced it when I used Windows XP and when I used Debian Linux (Woody and Sid). I believe that Mozilla has a bug on it, but they think its been squashed.

Don't know about your Konqueror woes. I haven't noticed it, per se (using it right now, actually), but now I'll look for it.

I wonder if its a missing lib......

By the way, it IS NOT your computer.

Opera is fantastic (if I had a 21" monitor, I'd use the free version all the time). All three choices are quite fast (and I've compared almost every web browser available for Linux,FreeBSD,NetBSD, and Windows). Opera handles plugins a bit better than the other two, but its a close race. Perhaps an upgrade is necessary. I believe that solved the addressbar problem with Mozilla (went from 1.4 to 1.6). Good luck

I was pretty sure that I'd experienced the Mozilla address bar thing in Win2k, but usually was too busy to pay much attention at the time. Just learned that I could "fix" it by minimizing and re-maximizing.

Limited time with Konqueror, since I wasn't seriously interested in it as a browser until it got tabbed browsing. I think that it may have been a general focus thing where switching to the browser via alt-tab highlighted the window but didn't really put focus on the app until I clicked inside the window. I have noticed that sometimes I alt-tab and the window I'm switching to just stays there on the task list that displays when you alt-tab (don't know the right term) until I hit enter.

So there could be a KDE thing or Fedora thing or something at work. I also added Freshrpms to the yum (like apt or, I suppose, rpmdrake) sources then changed to livna, which is incompatible (based on incompatible libs, I think). I noticed some real problems with Konqueror being EXTREMELY slow until I uninstalled all the Freshrpms packages that I could find and reinstalled the livna versions.

So maybe there was an issue there with what I noticed with Konqueror, and perhaps scrolling with Mozilla, as I'm a little vague on the timelines. Not an issue with the address bar thing, though...I've noticed that for some time before I made any changes with yum configuration.

So, we'll watch it a while and see how it goes now. You may have been quite close in the suggestion about a missing lib...only maybe incompatible instead.