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Old 06-09-2001, 10:29 AM   #1
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OK, I installed RH 6.2 on an old P75 which even only has a ISA IDE card, yep real old.
So after following some cook-book instructions to harden it I d/l the 2.2.19 kernel as tarball and compiled it to the specifications, leaving a lot of defaults for debugging reasons. So after installing the new kernel it boots to:
> Loading linux..............
> Uncompressing Linux... OK, booting the kernel.

And that was it. Afterwards the screen does not get updated anymore although it seems to keep loading in the background. There is still HDD activity and when I switch of power and boot from a floppy, fsck scans, so it definetly mounted and started properly but why does it not seem to send output to the screen after booting? (no x servers, btw, all shell).

If someone had an idea what that could be, if I missed to include a certain part in the 'make config' or if someone experienced something similar.
Any help appreciated.
 
Old 06-09-2001, 10:37 AM   #2
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Are you sure your kernel has "support for console on virtual terminal"??

Just a guess

Jamie...
 
Old 06-09-2001, 11:44 AM   #3
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Thanks, but that was/is not the problem, I checked it again and that part was/is enabled(deafault).

any other such "hang points" that would exibit this type of behavior?
I mean I don't even get an error or something, it just sits there still w/o output to the screen.
I am guessing it's some option that is excluded by default and needs to be included to make it run on those old P75s...
 
Old 06-09-2001, 01:29 PM   #4
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Thanks, but that was/is not the problem, I checked it again and that part was/is enabled(deafault).

any other such "hang points" that would exibit this type of behavior?
I mean I don't even get an error or something, it just sits there still w/o output to the screen.
I am guessing it's some option that is excluded by default and needs to be included to make it run on those old P75s...
I would also guess that it's a console terminal prob. Did you remove the directives related to /dev/ttySn in the 'append=' in /etc/lilo.conf?
 
Old 06-10-2001, 04:17 AM   #5
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I have no append= line in my lilo.conf and to my knowledge never had. I'll recompile again w/some changes, and will take a closer look at what terminals I install, ok.
 
Old 06-10-2001, 11:19 AM   #6
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OK, I have it working now.
I did not specify a special codepage as keytable and that's what messed it all up. Don't know if that is a specialty from 2.2.19 on, cause the cook-book instructions which had 2.2.14 did not mention these. Since they had totally different Hw anyway, almost everything needed to be adapted, so it took me a while to figure out which one of my adaptations caused the mess.
Thanks, I appreciate your help.

Another question, is a 1.33MB/Sec normal for a PIO Mod 3,4 HDD?
Seems rather slow if you ask me, its an old Fireball TM1280A...
Or is the 16bit ISA IDE bus card the bottleneck here?
 
Old 06-10-2001, 02:15 PM   #7
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OK, I have it working now.
I did not specify a special codepage as keytable and that's what messed it all up. Don't know if that is a specialty from 2.2.19 on, cause the cook-book instructions which had 2.2.14 did not mention these. Since they had totally different Hw anyway, almost everything needed to be adapted, so it took me a while to figure out which one of my adaptations caused the mess.
Thanks, I appreciate your help.

Another question, is a 1.33MB/Sec normal for a PIO Mod 3,4 HDD?
Seems rather slow if you ask me, its an old Fireball TM1280A...
Or is the 16bit ISA IDE bus card the bottleneck here?
I'd point the finger at the ISA IDE. Try and snatch up a Promise ULTRA/66 card or similar.
 
Old 06-10-2001, 02:34 PM   #8
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Another question, is a 1.33MB/Sec normal for a PIO Mod 3,4 HDD?
Seems rather slow if you ask me, its an old Fireball TM1280A...
Or is the 16bit ISA IDE bus card the bottleneck here?
Try tweaking the HDD settings with hdparm I've got over 100% speed increase in a few cases but in all cases I've seen an improvement, although your mileage may vary.

Jamie...
 
Old 06-10-2001, 05:00 PM   #9
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mcleodnine:
> I'd point the finger at the ISA IDE.
Hm that was my guess, too, it isn't even on board, its like the last version of mobos(FX) that did not have an onboard IDE controller.

> Try and snatch up a Promise ULTRA/66 card or similar.
I'd love to, but if I start upgrading there, then the little 16 MB RAM is equally urgent, and on and an on...
It's only going to be a router/squidproxy anyway, for like 4-6 computers, and especially for that caching I would have liked to either have more RAM or a faster than 1.33MB/s HDD. I mean PIO4 can be as fast as 4+ MB/s right, so I even would be content w/ 2.5-3 MB/s. Well, then I'll do w/o.

jharris:
Thanks, I already tried that, but only the blockmode, not yet the DMA.
That lifted me from a 1.13 to the 1.33 :/
Maybe I'll try DMA tomorrow, was a lil too agressive in my error searching today ;)
Thanks for the answer.

[Edited by helloworld on 06-10-2001 at 06:17 PM]
 
Old 06-12-2001, 02:40 AM   #10
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mcleodnine:
> I'd point the finger at the ISA IDE.
Hm that was my guess, too, it isn't even on board, its like the last version of mobos(FX) that did not have an onboard IDE controller.

> Try and snatch up a Promise ULTRA/66 card or similar.
I'd love to, but if I start upgrading there, then the little 16 MB RAM is equally urgent, and on and an on...
It's only going to be a router/squidproxy anyway, for like 4-6 computers, and especially for that caching I would have liked to either have more RAM or a faster than 1.33MB/s HDD. I mean PIO4 can be as fast as 4+ MB/s right, so I even would be content w/ 2.5-3 MB/s. Well, then I'll do w/o.

jharris:
Thanks, I already tried that, but only the blockmode, not yet the DMA.
That lifted me from a 1.13 to the 1.33 :/
Maybe I'll try DMA tomorrow, was a lil too agressive in my error searching today
Thanks for the answer.

[Edited by helloworld on 06-10-2001 at 06:17 PM]

Skip the drive speed issue and get some RAM. You'll have a good firewall to practice on.

 
  


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