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phantom_cyph 05-23-2007 07:50 PM

Virtual Machine
 
OK, I have some questions about running a virtual computer/network. (Note I am completely new to the use of a virtual computer, so please treat me as a newbie with this. :) )

1. VMWare the best? Also I hear about KWM or something...

2. Given the above options, is there a debian file for installation of these?

3. I need to set up a Virtual network, which edition do I need of the above software, is it free (it needs to be), and is the setup command line or graphical?

4. I see "virtual machine" images/files, do I need those, or can I just use a downloaded iso?

A little computer info-80Gb HDD, 3.333 GHz Celeron D, 1024mb RAM. That good?

Thanks! :D

FMC 05-23-2007 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phantom_cyph
OK, I have some questions about running a virtual computer/network. (Note I am completely new to the use of a virtual computer, so please treat me as a newbie with this. :) )

1. VMWare the best? Also I hear about KWM or something...

2. Given the above options, is there a debian file for installation of these?

3. I need to set up a Virtual network, which edition do I need of the above software, is it free (it needs to be), and is the setup command line or graphical?

4. I see "virtual machine" images/files, do I need those, or can I just use a downloaded iso?

A little computer info-80Gb HDD, 3.333 GHz Celeron D, 1024mb RAM. That good?

Thanks! :D

Hi!

VMWare is pretty good... and pretty expensive too! LOL

There is no "this is the best". What we can find is a "this is the best for this, that one is better for that".

KVM is pretty new, it have been introduced into the 2.6.20 kernel, so it is not very well tested, but its (not so) easy to use and have a pretty good performance.

You can try http://www.virtualbox.org/ too!

3 - The virtual machine will be a new machine insite yours, so, you just need to set up an IP address and share the internet access, whats a breeze on Linux! :-D

4 - Usualy those images are for VMWare player, but thats not a rule!

Yes, you computer is wonderfull to try some virtualization.

Good luck!

[]'s, FMC

phantom_cyph 05-23-2007 10:38 PM

Downloaded and installed Virtualbox. Why can I not find it in my menus? I also tried opening a BASH shell and tried to open "virtualbox", but to no avail. Any suggestions?

carl0ski 05-24-2007 05:34 AM

VirtualBox

its a capital V

phantom_cyph 05-24-2007 06:26 AM

OK, so I can run a regular iso on this? Or, if not, can you please point me to the Virtual isos I can use?

jlinkels 05-24-2007 07:19 AM

VMWare is pretty good, and it is legal and free (as you in don't have to pay for it)

There is no Debian package, but you can download the install files and run those. Installation has been painless on several of by Debian Etch machines.

You do have to have the kernel source installed if I remember well. I always have that anyway, so I can't remember whether that is mandatory. If you have to, "apt-get source linux-your.kernel.version" Just make sure source matches your running kernel.

I am running W2k very satisfactory, and access it from multiple clients. There is an excellent how-to for set-up if you google for "vmware setup ubuntu"

Do install the vmware tools aftwards on the guest OS. And have enough memory, below 768 MB it won't run very well.

jlinkels

carl0ski 05-24-2007 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phantom_cyph
OK, so I can run a regular iso on this? Or, if not, can you please point me to the Virtual isos I can use?

Virtual Box allows you to choose what CD device the fake machine should use

either /dev/cdrom
(your real CDROM will become D:\ drive)
or you can use any .iso as the CDROM drive.

EG if you use the Ubuntu LiveDVD.ISO as the cdrom
the virtual machine will boot from the ISO

mmn357157 05-24-2007 09:05 AM

great news, VMWare now available for free !!
download this at http://www.vmware.com/download/server/

i had used this great product on both windows and linux platforms.

i will summarize a number of its features here:
  • easy to install (install script) a few things you need to configure/select.
  • provides complete gui interface for all platforms.
  • if you have more memory more performance and several virtual hosts.
  • multiprocessor/hyper threading support.
  • you can play the image file( the file in which virtual partitions and os resides (not a single file but also a number of supporting files under the same dir.)) using VMWare Player a virtual os player.
  • the image file is created by a VMWare server and you can duplicate and create any number of copies of the same installed os.
  • image is portable and you can zip and write in to a cdrom.
  • you can even pause, resume, take snapshots, virtual networking, bridging with host os's network interface, NATing, built in DHCP, virtual network switches, multiple virtual interfaces and do a lot more!

VMWare tools can be installed on the virtual host to accelerate your graphics and input devices.

to use this: install VMWare, start it. install your virtual os using its installation cd, configure and play it.

(one of the main h/w requirement is physical memory. assume your host os need min 256 mb, virtual hosts at least need the same amount of memory per virtual host additionally. more memory you never feel virtualization at all!)


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