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Old 06-07-2006, 05:30 AM   #16
deadlinx
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about Redazz's post (Ubuntu cons)


Hi,

I use Linux because I want my pc to do
what I order it to do...it's a kind
of freedom typically of free software.

In other word, it's not a necessity to
start oowriter from a root terminal
anyway if I wish to do it I'd like
to be free of do it, in effect it is
possible with the majority of distros.

Oowriter it's jus an example to express
that when I log-in as user and I get
a root terminal I'm able to do only
text-mode administration but I'm not able
to start programs that use X.

The solution could be gksu anyway why I
can't use (successfully) xhost + ?
I used it but it doesn't work correctly.

A solution could be increase in the sudo_root
man pages the documentation and make it
really exhaustive instead to force people
that like Unix-style to spending time
in hacking their own pc to make it working
as they will.

Another,user-friendly way could be an installer
option that ask everybody which type of
administration way they prefer:

- Ubuntu (sudo-way; default)

- Unix (classical way)

I've no time in this period because I'm preparing
exams but in my spare time I'll go through scripts
for read well and understand better how Ubuntu policies
are written.

N-joy hacking Ubuntu :-))

deadlinx
 
Old 06-07-2006, 05:39 AM   #17
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[BEGIN UBUNTU RANT]
Nothing is free... sure is fishy that someone (the "first African in space"?) is willing to mail away free Linux distros at no cost -- no, I am not a cd seller on EBay.
[END]

It's your choice definitely to use whatever you like even if it doesn't give you full root login. But my freedom to express my distaste for it.

Cheers,

H
 
Old 06-07-2006, 06:18 AM   #18
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deadlinx, you are right, that you should use be able to make your system do what you want, but I was just curious about your personal reasons for using OOo as root instead of as a normal user. Personally I can't think of any reason why anyone would want to do this, but I guess you obviously have one (and its up to you what you do with your system ).

I agree with you that the installer could do with an option to choose between sudo and proper root account. I think the installer could also do with a package selector and an option to choose where to install grub instead of just overwriting the MBR without consulting the user.
 
Old 06-07-2006, 05:57 PM   #19
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deadlinx are you using "gksu" or "gksudo"? Because I was not aware that "gksu" existed.
 
Old 06-08-2006, 04:18 AM   #20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by meng
deadlinx are you using "gksu" or "gksudo"? Because I was not aware that "gksu" existed.
There is an app called gksu which can be used to run apps as root whilst logged in as a normal user. You can also use gnomesu for the same purpose.
 
Old 12-30-2006, 06:09 AM   #21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by reddazz

deadlinx, you are right, that you should use be able to make your system do what you want, but I was just curious about your personal reasons for using OOo as root instead of as a normal user.
Hi,

it was, obviously, an example.
I meant if you need to run, from a command line, an X program with root priviledge you'll get in trouble.

--Another example to be exhaustive--
if you need to run firestarter the easiest way is:

gksudo firestarter

Sure you can create a launcher, you can change owner permissions and so on, but the fact is that the Ubuntu solution, out-of-the-box, is quite uncomfortable!


Quote:
Originally Posted by reddazz

Security should be a priority even in a non business environment. Most of my machines are for personal use and tinkering, but I still prefer a proper root account instead if sudo.
[cut]
I agree with this, I cleared the aim of my posts in these lines.




sincerely

deadlinx

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