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Old 11-04-2003, 08:15 PM   #1
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Lightbulb The list of programs that linux does better than windows....


Im making a list of all the programs that Linux has that does or outdoes the windows program of similar nature. Here is an example:

Internet Explorer: Konquerer , Mozilla, Opera, Netscape
Photoshop/Paintshop: The GIMP
MS Visual Studio: GCC
Winamp: XMMS
AIM: GAIM
Trillian: Kopete
Windows: wine (heh)


I know the list goes on, but I want to make an entire list of all the programs that linux can replace from windows , proving that Linux is supperior.
 
Old 11-04-2003, 08:24 PM   #2
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To be blunt, mozilla and xmms are equivalent, at best, to mozilla-on-windows and Winamp. In fact, the Windows version of mozilla is markedly superior. I don't think there is a single application on Linux superior to a Windows equivalent (Windows-based, note, not Microsoft-produced) except for *every* command line utility. And fluxbox. And aterm and the like.

However, any GUI *function* on Windows can be performed on Linux. It just takes more work and isn't as nice. And is generally performed better from the command line, anyway. Linux is superior for so many reasons beyond just being able to use Winamp skins on xmms.
 
Old 11-04-2003, 08:24 PM   #3
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I'm as big a fan of linux as anyone but I think it's important to be
honest with ourselves as a community.
The GIMP is great but it does not top Photoshop...yet

Check out this list
http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-l...en/table.shtml
 
Old 11-04-2003, 08:29 PM   #4
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digiot:
I disagree Konqueror is definately better than IE
it terms of speed, looks, security, and configurability.
IE has more compatability, but that's b/c M$ doesn't
follow web standards and they have > 90% market share

xmms is winamp 2.0 they are the same

GNOME and KDEs defaults kick the crap out of XP on looks
The defaults on XP are attrocious.
I don't use gnome, but KDE themes are right pretty and
more complete than windows ones not to mention the
virtual desktops.

Edit:
Oh yes MPlayer and Xine work much better
than windows media player. And they don't
spy on you.

Last edited by LogicG8; 11-04-2003 at 08:31 PM.
 
Old 11-04-2003, 08:37 PM   #5
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Thank you Logic for the backup. digiot, I didnt mean to offend you, but you're reply was hostile. I checked the list you linked me to Logic, thank you for that, it was helpful. I agree with KDE looking much better than XP. Everything about KDE and GNOME is better than windows.
 
Old 11-04-2003, 08:49 PM   #6
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How can you justify comparing Windows Applications to Linux Native Applications for a comparison of Windows vs Linux in which one is superior to the other? That doesn't prove anything. If you want to prove which OS is truly superior, compare parts of the OS itself, not the applications that are developed for each.

Other than that, your only proving which programs are better in different OS's, not the OS's themselves.

Regards.
 
Old 11-04-2003, 09:01 PM   #7
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lol , another person is yelling at me. Considering that windows is used most often, people will not want to choose linux because they are afraid that the programs that they use all the time will not be included in their move to linux. We all know that linux has its superiority over windows as an OS, I was just grouping up peoples idea's of programs that replace windows programs, to prove that linux isn't only just some other OS , it can replace windows in its many parts. For Linux fans, you guy's seem awfully belligerent. Though, the one person I did appreciate was Logic for his help in linking me to the page. I asked for a list of programs to kill time and compare app's, not to yell at everyone and get yelled at. Thank you.
 
Old 11-04-2003, 09:07 PM   #8
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I'm not a zealot, I use what I think is the best.
I don't wish to enter a flame war about which OS is best
b/c all the ones I have ever tried (a lot of them, name it
and unless it's a distributed OS or strictly embedded I've
probably tried it out.) have had their good points and
bad points. I think diversity is important. I don't think
everyone should use linux any more than I think everyone
should use windows.

I'll call applications and operating systems the way I see them
though. And quite frankly linux excels for all of the applications
that I use.

I am not a professional graphics artist so GIMP fufills
my needs w/o a $400 price tag. My important choice
criteria: I'm not rich enough to throw $400 away on a toy.

I only do basic word processing and I think that ooffice,
while it still lags behind M$ Office in some areas, is better
for my needs. Aside from the break in price I like the
simplicity, the small file size, file compatability and other
features.

Gaim is much less annoying than AIM. I hate all the ads
and scrolling text that come along with AIM use. Plus
gaim has a lot of neat features like buddy pounce and
PERL plugins.

GCC is a great program, and I love anjuta for simple
programs. I hate having to create a project to make
a stupid hello world program. But to be honest
my preferred editor is VI. GCC is the equal of any
compiler out there.

I like virtual desktops I like using different desktops
for different tasks.

Those are the few that come up off the top of my
head. These are my choices and if you don't like
them choose something else b/c that's my favorite
part of using linux. Choice.
 
Old 11-04-2003, 09:08 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally posted by LogicG8
digiot:
I disagree Konqueror is definately better than IE
it terms of speed, looks, security, and configurability.
IE has more compatability, but that's b/c M$ doesn't
follow web standards and they have > 90% market share

xmms is winamp 2.0 they are the same

GNOME and KDEs defaults kick the crap out of XP on looks
The defaults on XP are attrocious.
I don't use gnome, but KDE themes are right pretty and
more complete than windows ones not to mention the
virtual desktops.

Edit:
Oh yes MPlayer and Xine work much better
than windows media player. And they don't
spy on you.
I specifically said mozilla, not IE - anything's better than IE. And equally specifically said I wasn't talking about MicroCrap like Windows MediaPlayer. I said Windows-based, not MS-produced. I didn't use any MS apps in Windows but the DOS box and the calculator. And, yes, the default 'Luna' theme on XP is atrocious. That's why my XP was set back to an enhanced W2K look with all dogs in search boxes put to sleep and all dancing paperclips removed and with multiple desktops and whatnot added. And why I still mentioned that fluxbox was better.

Quote:
Originally posted by IIven
Thank you Logic for the backup. digiot, I didnt mean to offend you, but you're reply was hostile. I checked the list you linked me to Logic, thank you for that, it was helpful. I agree with KDE looking much better than XP. Everything about KDE and GNOME is better than windows.
You didn't offend me at all and I have no idea how I came off hostile but, if I did, sorry about that, as I certainly didn't mean to. I just feel that Linux's strengths are in stability, security, command line power, and things of that nature and not in GUI apps. And understand, too, that I think a great many Linux GUI apps are great - just not particularly superior. Yet.
 
Old 11-04-2003, 09:59 PM   #10
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Let me clarify myself. I not once yelled, not sure why you think members are yelling at you. THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED YELLING.

I was only contesting your title and intention compared to what your asking. I myself really don't care about Linux vs Microsoft type threads, who's superior to who and so on. The only way you can get someone to switch, if that is your goal, is to show them. I can say Macromedia's Fireworks is better than Adobe's Photoshop, but that doesn't prove anything really.

Comparing programs doesn't qualify to state one OS is better than the other to me. That will only tell others there are programs that can replace the one's used in Windows. Some are better in Windows, some are better in Linux, but again, that doesn't justify overall who is better.

Basically this thread is nothing more than what is the alternative in Linux from Windows. Next time you should reword your title and intention, that's all.

Regards.
 
Old 11-04-2003, 10:15 PM   #11
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trickykid:

I've got to disagree. There is no clear seperation
between an operating system and it's applications.

I can write the best kernel in the world but if it has
no apps then it is worthless.

The measure of an OS is how well the kernel/core of the
operating system interacts with the applications
available for it.

If you want to compare default installs that is another
matter.
 
Old 11-04-2003, 10:45 PM   #12
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Quote:
Originally posted by LogicG8
trickykid:

I've got to disagree. There is no clear seperation
between an operating system and it's applications.

I can write the best kernel in the world but if it has
no apps then it is worthless.

The measure of an OS is how well the kernel/core of the
operating system interacts with the applications
available for it.

If you want to compare default installs that is another
matter.
I didn't say they didn't. What I'm saying is basically what I stated above. This thread is to compare what Windows has for apps and then the alternative apps used in Linux. To me, this has nothing to do with Linux vs Windows and which one is superior. It should be more like, which OS has better apps, etc. There is a big difference to me regarding the separation of apps and the actual OS, they are totally two different parts that do totally different things, well at least the apps were discussing here anyways.

Regards.
 
Old 04-09-2004, 12:33 AM   #13
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nothing beats free
 
Old 04-09-2004, 12:52 AM   #14
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I have never found a windows movie player that plays as good as mplayer on linux, for example no seek time.
Opera for windows constantly crashes
Opera on linux is fast and stable
 
  


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