im new in linux i used fedora core 2 i work with kde
i want to d/l some programs from the internet
and every file that i downloaded i dont know how to open him
for example
i d/l file that ends in .run
i have no idea how to open him whan i click on him he's ask me
open with ...
what should i tell him ?
and file that ends in .tar or .tar.gz
and more problen i d/l file that ends in .rpm
whan i click on him hes asked me open with ... i read a little and i see
open with that program
/usr/bin/system-install-packages
its installed the package in my computer its was winamp
and now after its installed what ? where he is ? how i need to open him ?
please help me im in this mess 2 days cant figure out nothing ...
thanks for your time ...
roy

i'm familar with files that end in tar and tar.gz. They are compressed files that allow easy download and installation.
For a file that end in tar.gz, use the command line and locate the file and then type:

gunzip file_name.tar.gz

and then

tar xvf file_name.tar

hope that helps

.tar.gz = gunzip filename.tar.gz (or right click and select extract in kde)
.rpm = rpm -ivh filename.rpm (or Uvh to update an already existing install)
.bin = ./filename.bin (you might have to chmod on certain files first, chmod a+x filename.bin)

You have to run these things from a command line. Linux isn't a click and run OS.

Open a command line and change to the directory where you downloaded the file

cd /home/username/downloads (or something like that)

RPMs have a specific way of installing ro a "man rpm" and that will give you a manual on RPMs. I run Slackware so I don't use RPMs.


to execute a .run file you need to make sure it is executible...

ls -al filename

that will show you the file's attributes.

if it is not something like this
:~$ ls -al j2re-1_4_2_05-linux-i586.bin
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jag7720 users 14381383 2004-07-09 10:28 j2re-1_4_2_05-linux-i586.bin*

rwxr-xr-x means that it is executible...

you can change the attributes with this

chmod 755 filename
or
chmod a+x filename.

use the first one.

Then to run it you would do this

./finlename.run

or

sh filename.run

Hope this helps
Jason

see what is tell me whan i do what you say

[root+AEA-172 roy]+ACM- gunzip essential-20040704.tar.bz2
gunzip: essential-20040704.tar.bz2: unknown suffix -- ignored

what is it what should i do
i just want to install some file

do this

tar xfjv essential-20040704.tar.bz2

New In Linux 11:
as you are using slack, steer clear of rpms. If you can only find what you want in rpm format then open a terminal, cd to the directory where your rpm file is then do:

rpm2tgz filename.rpm

then:

su
[password]
installpkg filename.tgz
exit

.tgz is the standard extension of the slackware package management system, and don't despair, it's a very good system. If the package doesn't do it for you:

su
[password]
removepkg packagename <-(without the tgz i think)
exit

for all the other stuff you mentioned use "mc": open a terminal and type:

mc

it's a file manager with integrated things like decompression and can run shell scripts and .run file by pressing enter when they are highlighted.
enjoy.

oops my bad, I didnt notice when you said you are using fc2, ignore th first bit of my last post.

I'm sorry, but it is ludicrious to say linux is not a point and click os. Of course it is. It is the backwards mentality in some that perpetuate the idea that the structure of the os is where the work is to be done in the os. Linux is as much X as Windows is their graphical interface. The mac is unix with a graphical interface.

It is the neglect by these backwards people in the OS, and by many linux developers, that are holding linux back from becoming mainstream. It is utter stupidity to say that linux is not point and click. Take it for what it is worth, but every thing you can do in the shell you can do in the graphical interface.

All those that perpetuate this command line interface should be chastized seriously by the whole community.

Part of the guys problem here is that heis downloading to his desktop. KDE sucks in that regard. IF THE DOCUMENT IS DOUBLE CLICKED ON YOUR DESKTOP IT WILL OFTEN ASK TO "open with". This is a bug. It is neglect and poor program design on the part of the KDE team, or a serious design flaw, but either way it is neglect to let it persist.

Anything you can do on the command line you can do from within X for linux.

Linux was designed as a kernel (or core), and nothing more. It was always designed to be a kernel designed to have a more extensive graphical face covering up the ugly nature of the kernel. On top of that, almost every other bit of code added to the OS, such as bash, tsh, etc are and were always considered a stop gap measure by most of the current community.

What this guy is describing is idicative of why linux is failing to capture the desktop market. After 10 years of development from millions of programmers it still is considered to be a crappy os with hugely weak areas that kill all acceptance on the desktop. Any recent progress on the desktop is due to the graphical aspects of X and not the kernel itself. So anyone telling you linux is not a point and click os is screwed up big time.

The problem this guy is having is because alot of stupidity goes into program release. The developers won't release a universal distro install for their app. Source code compilation is pathetic at best and is self destructive. Because someone can compile a program written by others is NOT an indication of their expertise, it is an indication of the developers incompetence.

I use linux for everything on all but one of my computers. I use multiple distros and I can atteset to how good an os linux is, but I am unwilling to live with this arcane crap about linux not being a point and click os.

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