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Old 06-23-2012, 11:40 AM   #1
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Storing Ratings Directly in MP3 Files (not banshee-specific)


(Prologue--I just posted a similar but different question asking if there is a way in Bansheeto store ratings in the MP3 or OGG file. That was a Banshee-specific question. The question below is not.)

Does anybody know of a way to store audio file (MP3 or OGG) ratings inside the audio file directly such that those ratings will show in any/all music players?

Also, does anybody know of applications where this is possible?

PLEASE NOTE, I mean that a tag/metadata should be actually inserted in the OGG or MP3 file itself, not merely in an application's metadata db.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Last edited by wmeler; 06-23-2012 at 11:46 AM. Reason: bad title
 
Old 06-23-2012, 12:48 PM   #2
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Nope, sorry.

MP3-

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ID3v2 Rating tag issue

There is no universal interoperability between ID3v2 rating tags and software. When rating a song in iTunes for example, the rating is not embedded as a tag in the music file but is stored instead in a specific iTunes folder. Some other media players do embed rating tags in music files but each software creates its own tag frame. As a result, a song which is rated on a media player (usually from 1 to 5) won't display the rating when played on another software or mobile device.

Some software does however follow the id3 spec: http://www.id3.org/id3v2.3.0 "Popularimeter"

The frame is called POPM and Windows, WMP, and Winamp (among many other smaller apps, like Foobar, etc) all use roughly the same ranges of 0-255 to create the display of 0-5 stars for display, and they do store this info in the files tag, if so desired.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ID3#ID3v2_Rating_tag_issue

Vorbis comments (used by ogg vorbis and flac) doesnt specify there should be a 'ratings' field. If its included in the comments, it should work with some players though. Never tested it myself, I dont use ratings at all.

http://www.xiph.org/vorbis/doc/v-comment.html
 
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Old 06-23-2012, 01:03 PM   #3
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Thanks for that. (Marking that response as helpful.)

In particular, in the id3v2.3.0 spec, section 4.18 on the "Popularimeter" looked interesting:
http://www.id3.org/id3v2.3.0#head-24...e129ff67970852



Follow-up question:
Does anybody know of any applications that run in Mint which implement this Popularimeter?
Or applications that run in Linux in general?

(For example, on my "other" posting, banshee created its own application-specific tag, not a more-general tag like that mentioned in the id3v2.3.0 spec.)
 
Old 06-24-2012, 07:05 AM   #4
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This could help-

http://banshee-media-player.2283330....td4542697.html

Sorry I'm not of much use. I might try modding a MP3 file with windows (foobar2000) and try some of the media players I have installed in linux, see if I can figure out any more.
 
Old 10-01-2012, 08:18 PM   #5
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Does anybody know if there is a better tool that does the above that has come out in the last few months maybe?
Going to leave this open (unsolved) for now just in case something better comes along and somebody wants to comment.

Thanks in advance, everyone.
 
Old 01-31-2013, 04:14 PM   #6
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I seem to have *lost* my ratings between Mint13 and Mint 14...??? Ideas?
 
Old 03-26-2013, 04:49 PM   #7
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First posted this a while ago.
Have any of you found a good rating system for MP3's yet? (That are stored in the file making them easily portable?)
 
  


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