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Old 06-25-2013, 01:50 AM   #1
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Software to make desktop bigger than screen resolution and be able to scroll?


Hi

I need an application which increases the size of the desktop bigger than the native screen resolution, and let's me scroll the desktop by moving my mouse cursor towards the screen edges. I've seen such a software in windows but I don't remember it's name.

Any help is appreciated, thanks a lot

PS: I'm using Kubuntu 12.04

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Old 06-25-2013, 02:03 AM   #2
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Hi,

I think you are looking for a type accessibility software, typically called a magnifier. AFAIK there are a few of them: Eg kmag and gnome-mag. Which one is best for you may depend on what desktop environment (if any) you are using. So, what desktop and OS are you running?

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Old 06-25-2013, 02:09 AM   #3
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Thanks for the reply evo2
Actually, not really. I guess I didn't express myself clearly. Here's the thing. My native laptop resolution is 1366x768, now i wanna have the same resolution, but I want my desktop larger, say 1600x1024 so that all the windows are bigger than my screen resolution and I can scroll the desktop by moving my mouse to the screen edges. I hope you now what I mean
 
Old 06-25-2013, 02:23 AM   #4
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if memory serves, X.org should be able to handle that natively by simply setting a virtual screen size larger than the actual screen size, though i forget the specifics, i believe i've done that a few times by accident.
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=130270 might be able to look here.
 
Old 06-25-2013, 02:27 AM   #5
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Hi,

ohh, ok. This used to be the default behaviour if you told X to run with a resolution larger than the native maximum resolution of your display. I'm not sure how that would work now that we use xrandr and X works most things out for itself without and Xorg.conf.

BTW, I'm really surprised that you want this sort of setup. Most people get more virtual space by using a window manager that has virtual desktops. What are you using?

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Old 06-25-2013, 02:34 AM   #6
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I tried adding 'Virtual 1600 1200' to xorg.conf but it didn't work. Actually I'm using a uml modeling tool, and this small screen res is really bugging me. Specially that the tool doesn't have the capability of dragging the diagram. And of course this feature would be annoying and I'f activate it temporarily.
 
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Hi,
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Originally Posted by mnvoh View Post
I tried adding 'Virtual 1600 1200' to xorg.conf but it didn't work.
I think you'd need to define a Display SubSection in the Screen Section. Eg something like:
Code:
Section "Screen"
        Identifier      "Default Screen"
        Device          "Default Card"
        Monitor         "Default Monitor"
        DefaultDepth    24
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth           24
                Modes          "1600x1200" "1366x768"
        EndSubSection
EndSection
Then you'd need to define the corresponding "Default Screen/Card/Monitor" sections, oh, and then a "ServerLayout" section... I sure don't miss screwing around with Xorg.conf.

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Actually I'm using a uml modeling tool, and this small screen res is really bugging me. Specially that the tool doesn't have the capability of dragging the diagram. And of course this feature would be annoying and I'f activate it temporarily.
I see, so the desire for this screen setup is because that particular program doesn't play nicely with a limited number of pixels.


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Old 06-25-2013, 03:08 AM   #8
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Kinda. Thanks anyways, but I just think it's not worth the time nor the effort. One thing I can do is wait a few year(maybe decades ) to make enough money to buy a laptop with 1080p resolution.

By the way frieza, what does 'Gnomes are NOT FOOD!' mean???
 
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Hi,

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Kinda. Thanks anyways, but I just think it's not worth the time nor the effort. One thing I can do is wait a few year(maybe decades ) to make enough money to buy a laptop with 1080p resolution.
Get an external display. I don't know where you're located but I imagine in most parts of the world you should be able to get a 2nd hand 23 inch 1080p display for *much* less than a 1080p laptop.

Cheers,

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Old 06-25-2013, 03:23 AM   #10
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Hi,


Get an external display. I don't know where you're located but I imagine in most parts of the world you should be able to get a 2nd hand 23 inch 1080p display for *much* less than a 1080p laptop.

Cheers,

Evo2.
That definitely seems to be the most viable option, but the problem is I'm already swarming in wires. The last thing I need is another wire running over me. But I might think of repositioning meself
 
Old 06-25-2013, 09:08 AM   #11
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Quote:
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Kinda. Thanks anyways, but I just think it's not worth the time nor the effort. One thing I can do is wait a few year(maybe decades ) to make enough money to buy a laptop with 1080p resolution.

By the way frieza, what does 'Gnomes are NOT FOOD!' mean???
well we tried,

in answer to your query, that was a bit of an inside joke tossed around in the community of players of a now defunct MMORPG called rubies of eventide, that the race of ogres liked to eat gnomes, and well the gnomes didn't much like that, hence 'gnomes are not food' (yes, it was role playing at it's finest).
 
Old 06-25-2013, 09:53 AM   #12
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well we tried,

in answer to your query, that was a bit of an inside joke tossed around in the community of players of a now defunct MMORPG called rubies of eventide, that the race of ogres liked to eat gnomes, and well the gnomes didn't much like that, hence 'gnomes are not food' (yes, it was role playing at it's finest).
lol I thought it was gnome desktop related.

Oh and yes you tried, and succeeded. I was looking for an app, and you pointed me in the right direction which is xorg.conf. but the thing is I was looking for a cakewalk solution . since I'm really busy with a project, I wanted to speed things up a little bit. But thanks anyway, maybe not now, but one day I'll use what you guys taught me today.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 06:59 AM   #13
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Hi

I finally decided that this small resolution ain't gonna cut it. So at first i decided to buy a used lcd screen, but then I thought, what the hell, maybe the virtual screen will be enough. So I did a little more digging and no matter what I did the xorg.conf thing didn't work. But then I found out how to exactly achieve that. Using this simple command:

xrandr --output LVDS --rate 60 --mode 1366x768 --fb 1600x1200 --panning 1600x1200

and realized that nothing totally handy comes for free
So I guess I'll have to spend a lot to buy a used lcd monitor with high enough resolution for me. Though it's still better than buying a new laptop with full hd res

Well, I just wanted to give a concrete solution to the thread.
 
  


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