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Old 12-28-2005, 04:19 PM   #1
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Rip Copy-Protected CD's to mp3


Hey guys. I got an iriver h10 mp3 player for Christmas, and have taken this as inspiration to digitise the remainder of my music collection. All was going fine until I got to a Joss Stone CD, which has some form of copy protection. What I want to know is, can this cd be extracted to mp3 from my linux box. I run gentoo linux, and use abcde to rip, encode and label mp3's (it uses cdparanoia to rip the cd, which is the bit im struggling with).

This is entirly legal (ive bought the cd, and only want to listen to it on my mp3 player) and im sure it must be possible, the data is on the cd after all. I can mount the cd, which seems strange in inself for a music cd.

Anyone who can help, recommend software or tell me of a procedure (bit for bit copy of the cd to hard disk, creation or recovery of iso maybe?) would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Masonary

PS. This cd was bought quite a while ago as a present, I will never buy any copy protected cd's.
 
Old 12-28-2005, 04:50 PM   #2
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should be able to. I haven't seen a cd that wasn't rippable. This actually is the first time I've ever heard of cdparanoia not working.

A couple of basic things I can think of.

1st, is cdparanoia the most recent version?
2nd, try another ripper like grip or ripperx.
 
Old 12-28-2005, 04:59 PM   #3
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the copy controlled cds, do have filesystem. (actually they are not allowed to be called cd's. They are not and you won't see the "Compact Disk" logo anywhere on them).
It's the second session wich contains the cdplayer program to play them on a Computer, but it's only for Mac and Windows.

When I had windows, I was able to "make" them behave like ordinary CD's with my plextor Writer by disabling the second session and reducing the read speed to 2 or 4 of the writer, from plextools but I also have the very same problem with linux. I don't know how to do it...

Also, I know that some laws are not sane, but lately a friend of mine informed me that even If you have bought a CD you are not allowed to keep backups.

I also will never-ever buy a Copy-Controlled CD again, because as a customer I feel I don't get the respect I deserve....

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Old 12-28-2005, 05:05 PM   #4
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Well, you could always try the sharpie trick on the cd.
 
Old 12-28-2005, 05:06 PM   #5
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should be able to. I haven't seen a cd that wasn't rippable. This actually is the first time I've ever heard of cdparanoia not working.

A couple of basic things I can think of.

1st, is cdparanoia the most recent version?
2nd, try another ripper like grip or ripperx.
You are from the States. You have a lot better consumer organizations there, so the Music Industry did not use this system in the US because they were afraid of getting sued. In Europe EMI and other Labels do use Copy Controlled CD's. They don't play in Linux and some MP3 players.
 
Old 12-28-2005, 05:18 PM   #6
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hmm... I thought Europe was more intolerant of this stuff than the states were... I was mistaken...
 
Old 12-28-2005, 05:18 PM   #7
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I just used xmms and I were able to play a Copy Controlled cd....
I don't know what happend. I'm pretty sure I have tried this in the past and it did not work...
 
Old 12-28-2005, 05:23 PM   #8
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If you can play it with xmms, you could change the output plugin to use the file writer plugin and maybe convert that file to mp3.

I've never done this, this is just a thought...
 
Old 12-28-2005, 05:26 PM   #9
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I tried on some songs on my playlist and it looks like the xmms file writer plugin outputs as *.wav files. So you can use lame to encode those *.wav files.
 
Old 12-28-2005, 05:35 PM   #10
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hmm... I thought Europe was more intolerant of this stuff than the states were... I was mistaken...
Europe IS more intolerant in stuff concerning technology and human rights (unfortunately not for long):
no software patents,
bittorrent files of copywrited stuff are allowed to be traded (since the bittorrent file itself does not contain any copywrited data. The one that shares/downloads the program through bittorrent does an illegal act, not the one that shares the bittorent file, see http://thepiratebay.org/legal.php),
cryptography, etc.

But not customers rights. There are no strong Consumer organizations in Europe.
Suing Companies because they don't provide good services or not respecting customers rights is something that does not happen often in Europe.
Europe did not have this "pure Capitalism" USA and England had for years.

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Old 12-28-2005, 06:11 PM   #11
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If you can play it with xmms, you could change the output plugin to use the file writer plugin and maybe convert that file to mp3.

I've never done this, this is just a thought...
this worked. I was able to convert them to wav. I was afraid that the files would contain errors because the tracks are supposed to have errors when you read them in high speeds ( if I remember well, the tracks had noise when the reading speed was more than x4 in windows but they seem to be fine). SO, all I have to do is convert them to mp3....
 
Old 12-30-2005, 09:35 AM   #12
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It's positively weird how the recording-industry thinks. If I can't pop a disk into my, ummm, CD-player (a stand-alone unit not connected to any computer) then I'm not going to buy the product. Duh.

Furthermore, there are more and more great artists who aren't bothering with "recording contracts" in this Internet age.
 
  


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