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Old 12-09-2004, 07:51 AM   #16
Emerson
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The fact that 'K' is not in the SI table neither gives nor takes away the right to use it in this context. It is an informal industry standard. I acknowledge that if I wanted to use a formal designation, I would use KiB. If all of the sudden everyone started using this new set of terms, most of my frustration over this would go away. As it stands, the terms are just not used, not even by manufacturers (by and large).

No, you don't have to worry. 'm' and 'M' are safe from the evil likes of me!

------------End of quote

Not you. Actually, this is not funny. US is a great country. But world is joining, it's 21st century, and US is putting itself in isolation. Here is the description of a LCD monitor from bizrate.com

1280 x 1024 Pixels - Dot Pitch 0.264 Mm - SXGA

Again some sort of informal industry standard? Is this your American way? What unit is this Mm? Is it millimile? Megamile? If you adopt m as meter, why you (=americans) have to refuse m as milli and use M instead?

After WWII America decided to switch to metric system. But you (=US) stopped on half way and currently you are just increasing the mess. Some examples:

Symbol - US-Name
------ -------
A - amp (ampere)
C - coul (coulomb)
dyn - dyne
F - farad
G - gauss
g - gm (gram)
H - henry
Hz - hz (hertz)
J - joule
K - degC (kelvin)
kg - kg (kilogram)
l - liter
m - m (meter)
MHz - mhz (megahertz)
ml - ml (milliliter)
Mx - maxwell
N - nt (newton)
Oe - oe (oersted)
P - poise
Pa - pascal
s - s (sec, second)
St - stoke
T - tesla
V - volt
W - watt
Wb - weber
Ohm (Omega) - ohm

Dear gd2shoe. Maybe there is a informal industry standard in US allowing YOU (=a guy from CA) to use KB instead of kB. But this forum is read worldwide. And for rest of the world K is Kelvin degree, and KB (kelvinbyte) is a nonsense.

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Respectfully, Emerson

Last edited by Emerson; 12-09-2004 at 07:57 AM.
 
Old 12-09-2004, 08:02 AM   #17
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I recognized we have gone totally offtopic here. If you feel you need to respond - do it. I'm finished HERE.
 
Old 12-09-2004, 12:55 PM   #18
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Anywayyyyyy..... :-)

Quote:
Originally posted by gd2shoe
Hmmm. Odd. I think I know what happened though. When you created the filesystem you typed something like:

mkfs.e2fs -j /dev/hdd

hdd is the name of the whole drive. Instead of formating the first partition only, you formated EVERYTHING. There IS no partition table, because you formated over the top of it. If you just want one partition, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Normally you would fdisk /dev/hdd to create hdd1, and then format hdd1.

When you used fdisk to check the drive stats, it tried to read the partition table, and didn't find anything that made sense. You can either use the drive as is, or you can fdisk again and format hda1 only.
You were exactly correct about hdd versus hdd1. I reformatted (using my new tool mkfs!) and pointed it at /dev/hdd1 and everything works as advertised (no errors not warnings.)

thanks for your help and efforts

And besides, I thought that K was for Kellogs. :-)
 
Old 12-09-2004, 04:07 PM   #19
gd2shoe
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Quote:
Originally posted by Emerson

....
Not you. Actually, this is not funny. US is a great country. But world is joining, it's 21st century, and US is putting itself in isolation. Here is the description of a LCD monitor from bizrate.com

1280 x 1024 Pixels - Dot Pitch 0.264 Mm - SXGA

Again some sort of informal industry standard? Is this your American way? What unit is this Mm? Is it millimile? Megamile? If you adopt m as meter, why you (=americans) have to refuse m as milli and use M instead?

....
--
Respectfully, Emerson
(1) I didn't know about the flagrant error on the part of bizrate.com . Had I known that you were referencing something that had happened, I would have responded differently. Had I seen that, it would have disappointed me too.

(2) I am not personally responsible for all mistakes made by my countrymen. So please don't act like it. If you want to help Americans (or anyone), don't blame them for the stupidity that happens around them.

(3) We didn't even get half way. Not even close. I wish we had. They are teaching SI in the public schools. The schools I've been to have almost stopped teaching the old standards completely. I think the switch will happen eventually, but it will be painful. It's not even on any political agenda anymore (to my knowledge). The nation wide hassle of switching to metric is just not popular.

(4) I respect you posting your opinion here. Part of what I love about the forums are the different opinions and points of view that are brought out. This is particularly true of an international forum. I'm just particularly stubborn on this topic. Note that two different os tools told jordanthompson that his hard drive were different sizes. This is simply disgusting. The capital v. lower case 'k' issue pales in comparison (but is part of the same issue, I believe).

It would help in some cases (like this one, maybe) if you added your location to your user account. You don't need to give a street address, but a rough idea would be appreciated.

I realize that you may only read this post, but not respond to it. That's fine. I understand and respect your motivation for doing so. I have felt that you misunderstood me in some aspects, and I will extend to you the same privilege. If I have misunderstood some of your intentions/reasoning then just shake you're head, and expect that the next time we meet up it will be on a different (more civil) topic.
 
  


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