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Old 01-10-2003, 08:05 PM   #1
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re: i want warez


a large percent of linux software is free anyways, but i think most linux users are respectfull of others intellectual property and don't promote piracy or warez
 
Old 01-11-2003, 12:50 AM   #2
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Is this something I missed??? Was somebody promoting warez...
 
Old 01-11-2003, 12:53 AM   #3
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Ahh, just came upon it. What the! I cannot believe someone would have to gall to ask that, besides the fact that it's straight up illegal, that's just messed up to try to "con" linux programmers out of the small amount of $ they ask for a quality product (and only on occasion!).

Sad, very sad.
 
Old 01-11-2003, 04:09 AM   #4
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Haha, yeah that is sad. Why there are no wares? Because theres no need for wares. You can find every commercial app as freeware as well, or at least shareware.
Examples:
Vmware - has 30 day trial, or you can get bochs or another of myraid of free apps that do the same as vmware
WineX - You can get wine for free, or if you absolutely need Winex, you can easily get it's source via CVS and compile it.
Games - if you own a windows CD you can get a linux patch and play them on linux (RTCW, Quakes, UT) and there are a bunch of free linux games as well.
Go to sourceforge.net and freshmeat and you'll see that there is no need for wares since there are so many free apps.
And as MasterC said, robbing the little $ linux programmers get is just sad. And then we are surprised how come no one wants to make Linux games
-NSKL
 
Old 01-12-2003, 07:41 AM   #5
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Why there are no wares? There are enough ppl dealing Linux warez, just have to look for it. There's always be crackers who will crack it "because they can" and ppl who'll want commercial applications for free.
 
Old 01-12-2003, 08:42 AM   #6
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the bit that most confused me was the fact that the guy wasn't actually after anythign in particular, he just wanted something that was illegal for the sake of it, which is particuarly pathetic. I knew the guy from an irc channel, words were exchanged
 
Old 01-12-2003, 10:58 AM   #7
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I don't think linux users are better or worst than other computer guy. I suppose the percent of *nix guys using/promoting warez is same as windoze.
It may be a slightly higher because the "basic" linux user has habitually more "computer knowledge" than the "common" windoze user, so it should be easier for him to use/promote warez.
 
Old 01-12-2003, 11:20 AM   #8
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Quote:
Originally posted by Half_Elf
I don't think linux users are better or worst than other computer guy. I suppose the percent of *nix guys using/promoting warez is same as windoze.
It may be a slightly higher because the "basic" linux user has habitually more "computer knowledge" than the "common" windoze user, so it should be easier for him to use/promote warez.
The "basic linux user" also has more knowledge of the amount of
work necessary to build decent software, and so one could argue
that it would be slightly lower because they have respect for the
amount of work put into creating such applications. It takes very
little work for a script kiddie to crack a system, just as it takes little
work for a script kiddie to download a cracked application. It's more
work for them to download wineX via CVS and compile it than it is
to snatch it off of a warez site. The major proliferators of this are not
able computer programmers, they are typically lusers who don't
know jack about programming or computers, and who don't respect
hard work.
 
Old 01-12-2003, 12:27 PM   #9
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don't understand the need to request warez when our software is gpl'd??? http://www.opensource.org/licenses/gpl-license.php

here is some software.
freshmeat.net
http://www.gnu.org/directory/
sourceforge.net
 
Old 01-12-2003, 06:28 PM   #10
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Wink Must be a cultural thing

Yeah, that's it. A cultural thing. See, somebody wandering into a Linux forum looking for warez would be equivalent to me going to India and complaining about the lack of a good burger joint.

Maybe not that close of an equivalent, but you get the idea.
 
Old 01-12-2003, 07:55 PM   #11
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e x a c t l y
 
Old 01-12-2003, 09:20 PM   #12
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The "basic linux user" also has more knowledge of the amount of
work necessary to build decent software

Hell no. More knowledge about compiling and running I'd say.
I'ts not about respect or seeking justification from a programmers' POV. It's not even a cultural thing but just plain human behaviour: when there's valuable stuff around, there will be theft.

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Old 01-12-2003, 10:01 PM   #13
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true

i've had the arguement many times with a friend that a network person and uses windows. he's a thief because of all the programs he has downloaded via kazaa or whatever it is they use. then he goes out to crab a crack. this makes him feel powerful and proud that he has all this "free" software that he can then burn to cd and share with friends.

this makes sense to me. it doesn't seem to occur to him that this is wrong. it's really weird.
 
Old 01-12-2003, 10:22 PM   #14
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Well, I'm a reformed klepto, so ... you know ... I forget that people steal stuff when they don't have to :-D
 
Old 01-12-2003, 10:37 PM   #15
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like asking a nun for a blowjob
 
  


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