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Old 12-04-2003, 03:01 PM   #1
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question about rhn


is anyone here registered with rhn? we are thinking about registering our servers with rhn. i wanted to know if anyone has had any good or bad experiances with it? did you get all your servers registered or just the first free one? what all are you going to get with rhn? does the benifits...whatever those are....... outway the cost? just if anyone had any info on rhn i want to know how it's gone....thanks guys
 
Old 12-04-2003, 10:46 PM   #2
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Re: question about rhn

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is anyone here registered with rhn? we are thinking about registering our servers with rhn. i wanted to know if anyone has had any good or bad experiances with it? did you get all your servers registered or just the first free one? what all are you going to get with rhn? does the benifits...whatever those are....... outway the cost? just if anyone had any info on rhn i want to know how it's gone....thanks guys
I think that you should forget about rhn and use apt or yum.

See http://apt.freshrpms.net

These are tools that do about the same job, but I prefer them since they're free and I feel they yield more control. I use it on 2 servers at work and my home firewall.
 
Old 12-05-2003, 07:19 AM   #3
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is there nothing else that rhn is gonna really do for me.....besides tell when new rpm's come out (which i could just use apt or yum for). i was just wondering if rhn really helped in any other area, and if anyone else out there has had dealings positive or negative.....thanks guys.
 
Old 12-05-2003, 07:58 AM   #4
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rhn gives you a graphical web interface with search capabilities. however, I found it very slow.

I really think that there is no advantage using rhn, unless you don't want to learn the bit you've got to learn with yum and apt.

I've heard that it is really easy buiding a repository with yum. Apt remains my favourite though.
 
Old 12-05-2003, 10:19 AM   #5
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my logs? sorry not following you?



(all i was wanting to know is what all rhn would do for you. if it's just reminders to update and links to the updates then apt might be the way to go. am looking into both apt and yum now.)

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Old 12-05-2003, 10:25 AM   #6
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logs? this is my signature

Personnaly, I don't see any advantages for rhn.
 
Old 12-05-2003, 11:46 AM   #7
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if rhn is only something that informs you of updates and points you to the right place, then the only difference between apt/yum is that you don't get informed when something comes out. is this a correct understanding? if don't use rhn do you just have to be a more diligent administrator and watch apt and yum for updates? is that the difference, or am i misunderstanding the function and purpose of rhn, apt, and yum.

and is there really any downside to just watching for updates (somehow), and then just wget the update and rhm -U after it's downloaded. i'm trying to keep my servers secure and bug free. i suppose i'm just looking for the best course of action here.....all info, suggestions, and personal experiance is welcome. thnx guys.
 
Old 12-05-2003, 11:59 AM   #8
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I got subscribed to the redhat security mailing list and I run apt-get upgrade daily.

apt is better than just wget then rpm -U, since it knows which packages has been updated.

you can automate the process as well
 
Old 12-05-2003, 12:49 PM   #9
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the difference between rpm -U, apt-get upgrade, and up2date being?.....
 
Old 12-05-2003, 12:52 PM   #10
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apt-get upgrade is similar to up2date.

with rpm -U, you must find that the package has been updated yourself, download it and then upgrade it with rpm -U.

With apt or up2date, you just have to run it, it detects all the updated packages, downloads and upgrade them.
 
  


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