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Old 10-19-2007, 01:04 PM   #1
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portable Windows software in wine


I am dual booting now and want to migrate to Linux completely. But I want to keep using some windows software, especially winscp, a ftp client which can synchronize my local file to servers. I have no experience on wine, I know I can install windows software. I know I am asking too much: I am using a portable version of winscp, I don't know if wine can handle portable application as well. If not, I can still install it. Or if you guys know some alternative to it working in Linux, you are more than welcome to tell me. Thanks.
 
Old 10-20-2007, 07:35 AM   #2
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First, I do not think that PortableApps should be any more difficult for Wine. I say that after trying to run PuTTYPortable and 7-ZipPortable under no-Windows-native-libs Wine. Even IPv6 works..
Second, I find sshfs + anything you want more convenient for scp: you just mount remote directory as you would mount a disk partition, and then file managers, browsers, shell utilities - everything - can be used to work with it.
 
Old 10-20-2007, 08:43 AM   #3
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What Raskin wrote might not be that obvious (I had to read it twice before I got) but he is right.

It is unlikely that you have to use a Windows program in Wine to keep your file handling functions. Linux programs are usually better at that. There are many Linux programs available which handle a remote folder thru FTP exactly the same as it were on the same machine.

Personally I am not fond of Wine, because of this:

- Most programs have a Linux equivalent which runs just as well or better.

- A program for which no Linux equivalent exists often is so special that it doesn't run in Wine either.

- For those programs I use a W2k running in VMWare to my total satisfaction.

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Old 10-20-2007, 09:04 AM   #4
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Sorry for unclear post.. I honestly thought it was not that unclear.

I don't think Wine is useless. As it can run MS Office and even Internet Explorer (these programs require some effort to be run in Wine, but they can be run), it is rather good. I use the IE not as an example of a needed program, but as an example of a badly written one which tries to be one with the OS itself.

But Wine should be last resort. First, it adds some inconvenience - either its windows do not behave exactly as they must or you just need a desktop inside your desktop. Second, if there is a similar program for Linux, it deserves as many users as it can make happy, so spend a little time to find it and spread the word.
 
Old 10-21-2007, 11:35 AM   #5
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Thanks for your guys' help. I actually installed winscp in wine. It behaves well. I will definetely look for some equivalent. unison is a choice, but it sounds like not supporting ftp, the stupid choice my department made. But the thing most bothering me is why the guys at winscp do not support a linux version since it is already a free software.
 
Old 10-21-2007, 11:45 AM   #6
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About ftp - find any two-panel file manager you like, and you will be able to use ftpfs. Also, mc and variations usually have ftp builtin (Gnome and KDE have their own FTP support presented as virtual filesystems, so there must be two-panel filemanagers who exploit it). Also there is FireFTP - a Firefox addon.
FTP is poor for security reasons. SFTP is a choice like many others. If you can ssh to machine, you can use scp anyway (and you can use sshfs).

About why WinSCP doesn't support a GNU/Linux version - it is some work, and you need to have a few different GNU/Linux machines to do it well. If someone wrote a Linux GUI (or just compiled it using WineLib), this version would probably be offered on the WinSCP site (with due credit to contributor).
 
Old 10-21-2007, 01:17 PM   #7
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About ftp - find any two-panel file manager you like, and you will be able to use ftpfs.
I use Krusader. It is a good file manager (looks a lot like Norton Commander, but it is the first NC-alike in a GUI environment which I really like) and most of the time I don't even realize that one filesystem is connected thru FTP.

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