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ereeno 08-06-2003 12:04 AM

p2p that actually works??
 
i can't get kazaa lite to work under WINE

xmule doesn't compile

apollon requires fasttrack, which requires giFT, which requires libtool, which doesn't compile

does anyone know of a package of some sort that will allow me to easily set up a p2p program in linux?? this is really getting frustrating. i have to go over to windoze just to download a song.

thanks for any suggestions.

newbe45 08-06-2003 12:15 AM

I am using limewire. You have to install a java virtual enviroment. The only bad thing about limewire is there are not that many files on it. And it only displays the file name under search.

DigitalTygrrr 08-06-2003 12:27 AM

I use lopster. It uses opennap servers and has a listing for the WinMX peer network...although I've never been able to connect to WinMX. It's an easy install and I've been very happy with the results.

ereeno 08-06-2003 01:00 AM

i can't get either of those to work.

i got a limewire rpm and it says it's already installed when i know it isn't

if i > locate limewire it finds nothing.

yowwww 08-06-2003 01:11 AM

try looking at the software page of the link below, there are several P2P options there, none will compare with kazaa(lites) database for mp3's but each has its advantages.

newbe45 08-06-2003 01:12 AM

hmmm
I don't know what to tell you? I will put some instructions on here for you maybe u arte doing something wrong.

newbe45 08-06-2003 01:15 AM

Did you get the java enviroment ?

(http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp

Pwcca 08-06-2003 01:28 AM

Maybe i'm just cynical, but I'll never bother with anything other than KaZaa (fasttrack network) for P2P. There are relatively few people using the other networks; so I can't really get the deviant porn I like. We really need the masses using KaZaa to supply the community with content. Try getting them to use eDonkey or whatever.... I have a windows box just for KaZaa and a couple of games because I've given up trying to get it to work on linux.

Don't get me wrong; I've gotten it to work under Wine several times, but for some reason with each new version of wine, the same windows apps may or may not run. ...and I'm too much of a dumbass to document what i'm doing, so it's frustrating. But, take a look at sites such as frankscorner, which have some tutorials on getting kazaa lite working under linux.

And when I got it to work, it worked really really well... just dont stir the air too much and try not to adjust the lighting in the room or your whole box might crash.

Crashed_Again 08-06-2003 02:14 AM

gtk-gnutella...hands down the best native linux p2p application.

crashmeister 08-06-2003 05:15 AM

mldonkey - get a static build if the dynamic doesn't work.Anyway sounds more like a problem with your box than the p2p apps since nothing compiles.:rolleyes:

MasterC 08-06-2003 05:54 AM

For quite some time I too had to reboot for the sole purpose of P2P (though I hated Kazaa and Used Grokster). I tried to get by with the Gnutella network, that definitely didn't cut it, the apps for that are things like LimeWire and Gtk-Gnutella. Finally I was able to get giFT working with giFTcurs as my front end on a Gentoo setup. It has been the GREATEST thing for P2P that I've found since I started the whole thing back with Imesh Napster and Wrapster (yeah, you guys remember Wrapster right?).

I'd say see about getting whatever you need going to get giFT installed, really I love it and with FastTrack/OpenFT/Gnutella as a working pool of files to choose from, it's been GREAT! I've also heard great things from the mldonkey crowd, so if you can get that running, I'm sure it's at least equally as good (but I'm very content with my working giFT setup I don't worry about it ;) ).

Cool

Pwcca 08-06-2003 09:36 PM

hey, I noodled with Gift for a bit myself, but I gave up and moved on before I could get it running. What front-end have you had the most success with, Master? Does it really support FastTrack??? If so, that would be a MAJOR development for linux p2p. I read that it supported FastTrack at one time but no longer does. Care you set the record straight?

MasterC 08-06-2003 11:14 PM

I can get on no problem. Again, the only luck I've had was with Gentoo though, the ebuild in there is definitely a working/good one. You will need to also compile/emerge in the fasttrack plugin, but that's all with Gentoo ;) The best part of it all, I don't even need to reboot from Slack to use it. I ebuild it in Gentoo, inside a chroot'd env, and then chroot into that partition to run that ;)

Maybe it's just me, but I don't think I ever was able to do that in windoze :D

Cool

Pwcca 08-07-2003 12:35 AM

wow.. i'm gonna give giFT another try then. I still have windows for neverwinter nights toolkit and a few other games, but a native linux p2p with multiple protocol support including fast track is what i've been waiting for!

speaking of giFT and kazaa.... check this out :
http://apollon.sourceforge.net/

MasterC 08-07-2003 01:19 AM

I'm a command line type a guy, but even so, I believe giFTcurs is the best front end I've come across so far. You don't need a big old fat gui to download things, just to watch videos is that's what you get. giFTcurs is an excellent front end, low resource using, for giFT.

Cool

Pwcca 08-07-2003 01:52 AM

I don't like big fat GUI's either... but in some cases a GUI is just nice. I'm a big fan of FOX, personally. I think GTK and especially Qt are really pointlessly bloated and over-done. I can see how a command-line interface would work just fine for a p2p client, though... especially with a transparent aterm ;)

But, anyway.... now i'm really confused about the whole FastTrack thing. I've been reading the giFT faq and i've come across some interesting info. It would appear that there is no FastTrack plugin for giFT. There once was, but no more since FastTrack changed their protocol. What they use is a clone of FastTrack, but a totally different network.

Here's a quote from their FAQ :

Quote:

FastTrack (KaZaa, Morpheus, Grokster)

* What is this "FastTrack"?
FastTrack is the company that licenses the library that KaZaA/Grokster (Morpheus uses Gnutella now) operates off of
* What's your connection with FastTrack?
giFT 0.9.x used the FastTrack network. FastTrack changed the encryption, end of story. Since October 2001 we've been fully focused on the "new" giFT and OpenFT. Don't ask us for a FastTrack client, just forget about it.
* Are you working on getting back into FastTrack's network?
No. Although quite a few people made attempts to reverse engineer the new encryption, nobody has succeeded, and nobody is working on it anymore because OpenFT kicks so much ass nobody even remembers FastTrack.
Is this not current info? Is there in fact a plugin for FastTrack or just the OpenFT "clone"?

crashmeister 08-07-2003 03:47 AM

Go to https://developer.berlios.de/projects/gift-fasttrack/

Trinity22 08-07-2003 04:46 AM

Xmule runs....as for working well.....I had it running for 7 hours and it downloaded 1 song. I'm trying not to complain after being w/o p2p apps for nearly 3 weeks.

I've heard great things about giFT....cept for it seems that one must have Stephen Hawking like knowledge to install it. Or maybe I'm too much of a noob. I'd kill to be on the fasttrack network again though.

trinity

crashmeister 08-07-2003 05:01 AM

Runs is a relative term.D/l'ed 1.6 gig with mldonkey in 15 hrs.That's the reason I got rid of xmule.
giFT ain't that bad to install with gentoo.There are also .deb's available.Don't know about the .rpm crowd.

Trinity22 08-07-2003 05:14 AM

crashmeister.

I read that xmule has a higher priority over mldonkey. or maybe that was edonkey. there are too many "donkey" p2p apps. :).

I would kill for a giFT rpm. I'm going to have to ask Santa for it I suppose.

trinity

crashmeister 08-07-2003 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trinity22
crashmeister.

I read that xmule has a higher priority over mldonkey. or maybe that was edonkey. there are too many "donkey" p2p apps. :).


There is a lot of conspiration theories in the p2p world.You need someone to blame if the connections are too slow:D

If you agree on a target I'll tell you where to get a rpm for gift.

Trinity22 08-07-2003 06:57 AM

If I agree on a target, wha? lol. I need sleep, it's 5 a.m. and I've been at this since noon. I'm about to take a valium and pretend like I never heard of wine or kazaa. :P. Perhaps this will make more sense later.

trinity

ereeno 08-07-2003 02:44 PM

an update on my status... if anyone cares :)

i got direct connect (dcgui) working. wow, that's almost too much for me. like IRC, so much to wade through. i guess i just have to get better at it.

i also got limewire installed and running, but it can't seem to connect to a network of any kind. i hit connect, and the connections screen just says "connecting..." and just stays like that, then disappears after a while and i'm still not connected. any idea why this might be? am i still missing something?

newbe45 08-07-2003 04:43 PM

what connection to you have?

ereeno 08-07-2003 07:43 PM

i'm not sure what you mean.

in the preferences there is a list of about 5 servers to connect to by default, but it can never connect.

i'm on DSL

synaptical 08-07-2003 08:26 PM

as a newb, i found giFT (w/giFTcurs) the easiest to install and use of all of the donkey/mules, and there are hundreds of terrabytes of data available (or whatever is a PB :D ) with FastTrack + Gnutella plugins. :cool:

sbilstein 08-07-2003 09:00 PM

I use giFt with giFtCurs and it rules. Except i found myself disabling the gnutella plugin because that sucks. Opne Ft is good, and i'd like to try that fasttrack plugin. Btw gift is a an easy compile and so is giftcurs.

MasterC 08-08-2003 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by synaptical
as a newb, i found giFT (w/giFTcurs) the easiest to install and use of all of the donkey/mules, and there are hundreds of terrabytes of data available (or whatever is a PB :D ) with FastTrack + Gnutella plugins. :cool:
Pentabyte ;) It's what, a thousand terabytes IIRC.

Cool

klios 08-08-2003 04:44 PM

Installing MLdonkey in Mandrake is a matter of typing

urpmi mldonkey

in a console as a root (if you set up urpmi sources - to do that go to http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/ ).

It has plugins for FastTrack, OpenNap, DirectConnect, SoulSeek, Gnutella. However it likes your RAM a lot. It eats it for breakfast lunch and dinner. I have 128 MB of RAM and it's barely enough.

crashmeister 08-08-2003 04:49 PM

Try to compile it yourself.Don't know why but I never had much luck with any packaged mldonkey,


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