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Old 01-07-2004, 09:29 AM   #1
linuxpupil
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NVIDIA Searched... didnt find my problem


Currently running:

AMD Ath 1.6
NVIDIA Gforece 3 64M AGP
Redhat 8.0

The deal:

Downloaded and ran NVchooser.sh. Downloaded the files it told me to download. Rebuilt the rpms, install the rpms, changed Xconfig. Reboot time. RedHat wont startX. nvidia driver invalid. I get a couple of splash screens telling me the nvidia driver problems... then it wont startX. I noticed (after my 5th complete reinstall of linux) that the rpmbuild puts everything in i386, and I think it should be i686. Could this be a problem.
 
Old 01-07-2004, 09:50 AM   #2
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try running redhat-config-xfree86 at the console. See if that helps. If not, remove the rpms, and do not use rpm's never ever more while you use Linux . Ok, maybe not that much, but I'm still about to see somebody who uses rpm's and dont have a broken system. This is the package you want:

http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/L...-5328-pkg1.run

Then do as you did, type:

sh <name of the package.sh>

Change the nv to nvidia, startx.

P.S: if you put your XF86Config here could help us detecting the problem.

Good luck!
 
Old 01-07-2004, 10:10 AM   #3
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Well after the freezes I couldnt startx and still dont know how to manuver well enough in linux with a GNU, much less without one.

I was able to goto MC and see if I could tweek out the problem with the Xconfig and hopefully that would change the problems I had. Unfortunately even after restoring the Xconfig back to reference the "nv" driver, X still was shot. I reinstalled Redhat before I went to bed so I will be playing wiht it when I get home.

As for the RPM comment: You mean that finally when I learn how to use them properly and "rpmbuild" stuff, and know where it goes, and know how to install them... that that isnt recommended? I have to learn something else? If it is tarball I might be ok because I think I have that almost down. Oh well.

Side note... with a cable modem, after logging in I get a host error... I will post the error up when I get home. Hopefully I can remove it. It doesnt hinder anything to my knowledge... just kinda annoying.

Also on the list of crap to do... Eterm. =)
 
Old 01-07-2004, 10:23 AM   #4
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Ghehe. Nah, you can keep doing rpm's. Although, for nvidia's card I really don't think it's necessary, it's an executable already. all files ended with sh or run are executable, it's just a matter of type sh <name of the package>.

Rpm's are "good" or at least the idea of a precompiled package was... but it clearly does not work. I've been using Redhat 9.0 for a long time. Although, it's still one of my favorite distributions. With all respect for Linux, Redhat really made me more angry then windows 95 to set it up. Silly things as trying to install a rpm which requires another rpms, which requires another one. To do not say that sometimes I wanted to install a package which asked for another rpm which was already installed... arghhh.

My real suggestion installing a program is:

1 - Install from your CD's
2 - Install with apt-get ( http://freshrpms.net/apt/ ), which is great.
3 - Download and compile from source, which is very effective
4 - Install using rpm's

Try in that order. Indeed, installing programs is pretty personal, maybe you might like rpm's above the others. That's just my personal preference. Apt-get is a cool toy once you get it set up, which is pretty easy to do. Compiling from source is pretty simple too. Take a look here:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...threadid=45094

A little bit unconnected You are saying that you want to try to install eterm?. Well, many peoples complains that it's hard to install. If it's transparency that you are looking for, try this one :

http://aterm.sourceforge.net/

It's called aterm, it's pretty light weight, easy to install from source and has transparency.

Last edited by Mega Man X; 01-07-2004 at 10:25 AM.
 
Old 01-07-2004, 10:38 AM   #5
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I have installed Eterm successfully once. I it wasnt as difficult as I thought... just locating all the stinking libs were getting old.

As for the apt-get, I will have a good look into that. See if that is something that fits me. Honestly I have no preference one way or the other... my skills with linux are limited to searching and reading and hopefully it coming together. So a multitude of ideas and procedures I am in no way counting out as possible avenues of install new things. New things is what I need to do anyways.
 
Old 01-07-2004, 10:44 AM   #6
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Cool! I will tell you what apt-get does/is for. Let's say you want to install gaim. To install gaim, you simply type:

apt-get install gaim

So apt-get will connect to the server, download and install gaim and all dependecies for you. Most of the programs can be installed that way. For you to have an idea, if you want to install mplayer:

apt-get install mplayer

It will install everything for ya, codecs, fonts, libs, even the gmplayer will be available for you. You can also upgrade a package if you like, or apt-get itselfs, or even your distribution:

apt-get dist-upgrade
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade.

It really is cool, easy to install and surely will help your life a lot . Indeed, not all packages are new or available thru apt-get, but it's still great. I could install from mame to mplayer with it without a problem. What I could not, I did from source Try it out man, I'm sure you gonna love it
 
Old 01-07-2004, 05:50 PM   #7
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Ok, when I run the "http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/...0-5328-pkg1.run
" file I get an error saying X cant be running. How do you stop it? =/

Code:
make[1]: *** [cdrom] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/apt-0.5.5cnc6/methods'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.90122 (%build)
Get this error when trying to rebuild eterm and apt-get. New error to me =(

Edit: figured out that I exec permissions werent in place. Not sure how to get around that quite yet.

Last edited by linuxpupil; 01-07-2004 at 06:28 PM.
 
Old 01-07-2004, 06:39 PM   #8
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hmmm, lemme me see if I understood it. You have two problems? One with the graphics card and another one with apt-get?. If so, then:

1 - You cannot be running X to install nvidia graphics card. You have to boot into console, then install, the startx. To boot into console mode, as root, edit the file located at:
/etc/inittab.

Scroll it down a little bit until you find a line where it stands more or less like this:

id:6:initdefault:

Change that 6 to 3. Reboot. Next time you will have a text login. Login as root, locate your nvidia packages (I'm assuming that you've saved it into your hd...), install with sh <nvidia_whatever_it_is.sh>. If everything went fine, edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config. Scroll down until you find "driver nv" and change the "nv" to "nvidia". Type startx and see if you get nvidia splash screen. If it does, then you have 3D acceleration. Edit your /etc/inittab to the number it was to restore the graphical login. That is all you've to do. There are other methods, but this shall work fine.

2 - About apt-get. If the rpm installed fine, simply type:

apt-get update

That will update apt's servers. Then you can run apt-get install

<whatever you want to install>

You also have to be root for such operations. Let me know if you did not understand something above
 
Old 01-07-2004, 08:15 PM   #9
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Got my NVidia drivers up and running. Thanks a ton. It was alot of fun with someone helping ya out on the stuff you werent sure about. Now the apt-get I cant get the src.rpm to rebuild.

make[1]: *** [cdrom] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/apt-0.5.5cnc6/methods'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.90122 (%build)

is my error. I am not sure where I went wrong... or if I have the wrong rpms. <shrug>
 
Old 01-07-2004, 08:27 PM   #10
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show more of the error, the important part is above what you pasted in .... that error doesn't show nothing ...
and for the time being, try this one
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