LinuxQuestions.org
Review your favorite Linux distribution.
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Software
User Name
Password
Linux - Software This forum is for Software issues.
Having a problem installing a new program? Want to know which application is best for the job? Post your question in this forum.

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 03-08-2003, 08:44 PM   #1
nosebleed
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Virginia, USA
Distribution: Debian GNU/Linux Sid
Posts: 28

Rep: Reputation: 15
Question Newbie help needed


I use Mandrake Linux and I was wondering if there was an easy way to install tar.gz files using Mandrake. I know you have to use the command line but that seems like a tedious process that sometimes never works right. I thought Mandrake was geared toward new users and I know new users like me grow weary of using the command line.

I also have a question about rpm files. If I download an rpm package, where do I need to put so that the Mandrake software manager can see it?
 
Old 03-08-2003, 09:19 PM   #2
Dark_Helmet
Senior Member
 
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,786

Rep: Reputation: 370Reputation: 370Reputation: 370Reputation: 370
Dunno about the tar.gz files...

As for the rpm files, any good old place is fine. If you double-click the file, it will probably ask you for root authorization, and then install the package. I say "probably" because I use Red Hat, but I'd imagine Mandrake would have something similar.

That said, I'd suggest a single repository for rpm files. It's not necessary, but I make a directory: /usr/local/rpm. I put all the rpms in that directory "just in case".

Last edited by Dark_Helmet; 03-08-2003 at 11:16 PM.
 
Old 03-08-2003, 09:39 PM   #3
2damncommon
Senior Member
 
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Calif, USA
Distribution: Debian Wheezy
Posts: 2,872

Rep: Reputation: 88
Quote:
you have to use the command line but that seems like a tedious process that sometimes never works right. I thought Mandrake was geared toward new users
You just install RPMs until you feel like trying installing from source.
Why would you knock Mandrake because you CAN use command line as much as you want?
Most programs are available for Mandrake as RPMs. Are you wanting to install one of the not-completely-free programs that like to use a shell script to install the aplication, or are you really wanting (or needing) to install source?
Once you learn how to do it, a source install is not that bad.
Good Luck.
 
Old 03-09-2003, 12:19 AM   #4
contrasutra
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: New Jersey
Distribution: Arch Linux
Posts: 1,445

Rep: Reputation: 46
in another thread, someone posted a great guide on installing tar.gz files. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...threadid=45094 It helped me. Its really not that tedious once you get the hang of it (i did in like an hour), and you can paste and cd from your file manager, so you dont have to type too much.

 
Old 03-09-2003, 09:15 AM   #5
JStew
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2002
Location: North Atlanta
Distribution: LFS
Posts: 229

Rep: Reputation: 30
Here's a clue:

Whenever you untar and unzip a tar.gz always go into your new directory and take a look at the README or INSTALL files. They will almost always take any guess work out of the process. Pay attention to error messages. If need be, copy the error message, Google it, and you will almost always find what other files are needed (in case you didnt check out "dependencies" on the software's website).

If you dont use the command line interface, you might as well use Windows. Sorry, dont take that the wrong way, but it's the truth.
 
Old 03-09-2003, 12:26 PM   #6
2damncommon
Senior Member
 
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Calif, USA
Distribution: Debian Wheezy
Posts: 2,872

Rep: Reputation: 88
Quote:
If you dont use the command line interface, you might as well use Windows.
I wouldn't go that far. Although people that talk down command line interfaces (yes, even DOS) don't know what they are talking about. That some people PREFER a GUI is fine with me.
There really isn't any reason someone cannot enjoy using Linux without too much command line. It is best to learn at least some basics though.
Not learning all the tools available does mean you will be limited in some tasks.
 
Old 03-09-2003, 01:58 PM   #7
JStew
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2002
Location: North Atlanta
Distribution: LFS
Posts: 229

Rep: Reputation: 30
its ok to prefer a gui but inexcusable to not learn the cli. but, this is just an opinion. suffice it to say that if you DONT learn the cli then dont expect to get very far.
 
Old 03-09-2003, 02:55 PM   #8
nosebleed
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Virginia, USA
Distribution: Debian GNU/Linux Sid
Posts: 28

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
To JStew:

I'm sorry, I actually don't have aproblem using the command line. In actuality, my installation didn't install correctly so when I tried to compile I get error messages. I had actually tried the walkthrough in the post on the forum. Please don't make me feel dumb. I am just a newbie to Linux, That's all!

To contrasutra:

I actually looked at that post. I'll try it again if everything goes right!

Last edited by nosebleed; 03-09-2003 at 02:57 PM.
 
Old 03-09-2003, 03:03 PM   #9
Dark_Helmet
Senior Member
 
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,786

Rep: Reputation: 370Reputation: 370Reputation: 370Reputation: 370
I don't believe he was trying to make you feel dumb. As you begin to learn the ins-and-outs of using linux, you'll find that a lot of people will refer you to a command line. You can do pretty much everything from a prompt. It gets to the point that some people depend heavily on the command line; so much so that having a GUI becomes optional, and in some cases, a hassle.

Don't sweat it. Learn at your own pace. You'll understand in due time.
 
Old 03-09-2003, 06:22 PM   #10
JStew
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2002
Location: North Atlanta
Distribution: LFS
Posts: 229

Rep: Reputation: 30
Nosebleed: sorry if you thought i was bein an ass... im just an opiniated b.s. artist... remember that no one can make you feel a certain way (read-> Internal Locus of Control , not External...)
 
Old 03-09-2003, 06:34 PM   #11
nosebleed
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Virginia, USA
Distribution: Debian GNU/Linux Sid
Posts: 28

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
It's okay. I've just had a lot on my mind. Not going to get too personal though.

I actually think this is a great forum, though. I haven't recieved this much help on other forums, so thanks!
 
Old 03-10-2003, 12:41 AM   #12
sshanggu
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Now in China
Posts: 2

Rep: Reputation: 0
What¡¯s wrong with .telnetrc?
1)I like my telnet client starting with ¡°character mode¡±.
2)So the file ~/.telnetrc was created with only one line in it. It is ¡°mode character¡±
3)But the file ~/.telnetrc seems not read by telnet. It still works as ¡°line mode¡±
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
AIX - Newbie help needed! bobmcobob AIX 4 10-22-2004 09:04 AM
help needed by newbie.... houyi99 Linux - Newbie 1 09-22-2003 04:56 AM
The fun of being a newbie... (help needed) abethepunk Linux - Newbie 11 07-21-2003 07:05 PM
Newbie : Help with Samba Needed dastrix Linux - Networking 2 02-25-2003 04:39 PM
help for the newbie needed albean Linux - Newbie 7 10-04-2002 10:45 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:12 AM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Facebook: linuxquestions Google+: linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration