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Old 07-10-2011, 12:32 PM   #1
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Need a table of browser features or a hint for an alternate browser


I want to slim down the Slackware system on my laptop and am wondering if I should go for a different browser than Firefox. There seem to be some lean and fast browsers, but sadly I can't find complete lists of their features on the web. While Wikipedia has some tables about browser features they are very generic and don't tell me what I want to know.

Can anyone point me to a site with complete lists of browser features?

May be anyone can tell me if their favorite browser (except Firefox) supports this features, which are essential to me:
- Tabbed browsing
- Flash, mplayer-plugin and AddBlock Plus
- Import of Firefox bookmarks, and if possible bookmark syncing over the net
- Keyword searches

As far I have seen til now only Seamonkey supports those features, but Seamonkey comes also with a mail client and a web-editor. I don't have the need for a web-editor at all and a mail client is only for me if it can import my mail accounts and filter rules from Thunderbird.

Thanks in advance for any hint.
 
Old 07-10-2011, 12:42 PM   #2
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SeaMonkey, IceWeasel, SongBird[list goes on] are Firefox(Mozilla) based. Well maybe try Opera? It passes 4 thing test you mentioned.
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{...}- Tabbed browsing
- Flash, mplayer-plugin and AddBlock Plus
- Import of Firefox bookmarks, and if possible bookmark syncing over the net
- Keyword searches{...}
Midori is great too but it's new and bit less functional and for many people too many tabs slows it down.
Anyway you can still have Firefox and one more browser on system.

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Old 07-10-2011, 12:46 PM   #3
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Hi Tobi,

Here is the link that might help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers

The above link contains features/comparison of all web browsers.

Another link is: http://alternativebrowseralliance.com/browsers.html but I think the one mentioned in Wiki is better. As you mentioned you already had a look at the Wiki link not sure if the one I have mentioned is the same.

I personally prefer using Firefox and the next comes in my mind is Chrome. Chrome is pretty light weight and works fine on my Ubuntu system.

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Old 07-10-2011, 01:04 PM   #4
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My 2 cents.
Midori
WebKit based browser like chrome, chromium
Tabbed browsing - yes
Flash - yes
mplayer-plugin - not that I know about
AddBlock Plus - has it's own
Import of Firefox bookmarks - yes
bookmark syncing over the net - don't think so
Popup blocker
user agent switcher

Renders CSS and htlm5 video well, familiar browser interface, not perfect. (Either is Firefox 5)
Has some nice features like buttons in the status bar to turn images, script, plugins on/off.

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Old 07-10-2011, 01:28 PM   #5
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Thanks for the answers anyone.

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Well maybe try Opera? It passes 4 thing test you mentioned.
Which 4 things are that? All the things I mentioned in my list are (almost) essential for me, but especially the keyword search feature.

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Originally Posted by Arcane
Midori is great too
Quote:
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Midori
I had a look at Midori's dependencies and seems to be aimed at Gnome users (GConf, gnome-keyring). I want to slim the system down and use as less parts of the DEs as possible, so I think that Midori is not the right one for me.

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Yes, that are the tables I mentionend. Sadly they don't tell me what I want to know.

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Chrome is pretty light weight and works fine on my Ubuntu system.
I would rather go for Chromium than Chrome, but besides that Chromium has the same Gnome dependencies as Midori, so I would rather not use it.

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mplayer-plugin - not that I know about
Can you watch xvid/divx/mpg videos with it?

Any informations about keyword search in any other browsers than the Mozilla based ones? If not, it seems to me that I am stuck with Mozilla based browsers. In that case I would think that Seamonkey would be my best option, if I can find out how to import my Thunderbird stuff into its mail client.
 
Old 07-10-2011, 01:49 PM   #6
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Hello,

I use Xmarks http://www.xmarks.com/ to synchronize my bookmarks which is available for several browsers. But I had no good experiences with Xmarks when Firefox 4 came, it damaged my bookmarks which I use to synchronize over several computers.

I have a question: what is your problem with Firefox? I was also considering to change the browser, but I did not find anything better than Firefox.
[off topic] My biggest problem with Firefox is on Windows-computers where the first start of Firefox on a new useraccount produces more than 20MB of data which (depending on the profile-type of the user) are then copied over the network everytime the user logs in, But this is no typical Linux-problem [/off topic]

I tried midori, it took about 45 minutes to compile webkit (which is one of the dependencies) but I found this browser quite useless. I uninstalled it after one day.

Markus

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Old 07-10-2011, 01:58 PM   #7
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I use Xmarks http://www.xmarks.com/ to synchronize my bookmarks which is available for several browsers. But I had no good experiences with Xmarks when Firefox 4 came, it damaged my bookmarks which I use to synchronize over several computers.
I also use Xmarks for syncronization, but I didn't have any problems with it in Firefox 3.6, 4.0 and 5.0, worked all the time flawlessly.

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what is your problem with Firefox?
No real problem, I just thought about a more lightweight alternative (I try to slim the system down and make it as fast as possible without loosing my comfort, small SSD in that machine) and didn't find information about the features that are essential to me in a browser.
 
Old 07-10-2011, 02:00 PM   #8
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Midori does use gtk. Most are going to use gtk or qt.
If you want another light browser built upon webkit look at XXXterm.
I built it on a FreeBSD box and it worked ok. Configures with a few config files. It has vi key bindings, very light, takes a little getting used to.

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Can you watch xvid/divx/mpg videos with it?
I always copy the link and play it with mplayer. It does play html5 videos ok. It gets a score of 100 at acidtest.

Firefox is a geko based browser, kinda heavy. Same as galeon. Firefox 5 speeds up the script engine a little.

I've got Midori .3 open with 5 tabs right now, top says it's using 53M of memory. It renders pages correctly. So does XXXterm.
If you want a full figured browser, your choices are Firefox, Chromium, Opera. If you want a lighter one you are going to loose features. You can go all the way down to lynx if you want. Then there is dillo, works fine, doesn't do frames though.

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I tried midori, it took about 45 minutes to compile webkit
Yes. Webkit has also had it's share of vulnerabilities. So has Firefox though. It's not useless, it works well, doesn't have the ease of use of Firefox though.
 
Old 07-10-2011, 02:12 PM   #9
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Midori does use gtk. Most are going to use gtk or qt.
No problem with GTK or QT here, I use some applications that use both toolkits. But I want to avoid installing more parts of Gnome/KDE/XFCE than absolutely necessary for my software to work. I don't see why I should install the GConf tool to run a browser in a non-Gnome environment, this is the point where integration goes to far IMHO.
 
Old 07-10-2011, 02:49 PM   #10
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arora is QT, and according to the comparison page from wikipedia, mentioned above, :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers
it has got quite a lot of features. What i can't figure out if the ones you mention/need are amongst it.

What i did is this:
http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/confi...sable-bearable
I can't say that iceweasel/firefox seems to be slower or more resource-hungry than other gui-browsers for me. I have read that for some people it is.
 
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Old 07-10-2011, 04:09 PM   #11
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Thanks to all for your advices.

I managed to replace Firefox and Thunderbird with Seamonkey and its mail client without loosing functionality.
I compared them, and found that Firefox+Thunderbird are using 60 MB of RAM more than Seamonkey with mail client open, both with the same tabs openm so if no problems arise I will stay with Seamonkey (currently writing here from it.
 
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Which 4 things are that? All the things I mentioned in my list are (almost) essential for me, but especially the keyword search feature.
The 4 you mentioned!

- Tabbed browsing
- Flash, mplayer-plugin and AddBlock Plus
- Import of Firefox bookmarks, and if possible bookmark syncing over the net
- Keyword searches

Yes it does all of these, including keyword searches.

Though instead of AddBlock Plus use 'Opera AdBlock' from the Opera Extensions page.
 
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Midori does use gtk. Most are going to use gtk or qt.
Opera needs neither. It will optionally use them if present to simulate a native look and feel but runs perfectly happily (and slightly faster) without either.
 
Old 07-12-2011, 08:59 AM   #14
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@ruario: Sorry, I misunderstood your post.
 
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Ok, I tried Opera, and it really is fast and lightweight. It has some issues with updating the screen while scrolling a website on my system, but nothing to annoying. But since I already ditched Firefox and Thunderbird in favor of Seamonkey I think I will stick with Seamonkey.
 
  


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