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Old 10-14-2003, 05:34 AM   #1
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MSN protocol changing tomorrow.


Hey

MSN is changing its protocol tomorrow and the rumour is that third party clients will not be able to use MSN. Appartenly this is for security reason - bah! w!nd0z security!

Anyhoo, does anyone know what the effect on Gaim will be? I know it technically will not be able to access M$N on it, but is there maybe a way round it, or are we screwed?

I looked at SlashDot, but couldn't find anything.

long live open source
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Old 10-14-2003, 07:09 AM   #2
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gaim, kmess-cvs, and kopete already have implemented the SSL based login. If this will work tomorrow is just a guess..

but if you go to the gaim homepage, you'll find this link about msn information: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/msn.php
 
Old 10-14-2003, 07:11 AM   #3
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Thanks for that yapp.

guess we will know tomorrow

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Old 10-14-2003, 08:28 AM   #4
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microsoft wont allow third party tools to connect to their MSN server, they r thinking of blocking access to thier server by thierd party tools
 
Old 10-14-2003, 08:29 AM   #5
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http://www.bigblueball.com/forums/t...p?TOPIC_ID=5963
 
Old 10-14-2003, 08:59 AM   #6
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microsoft wont allow third party tools to connect to their MSN server, they r thinking of blocking access to thier server by theirs party tools
yes we are aware of that. That's why I keep my fingers crossed.

Because I have a lot of friends at MSN, I don't like to idea of Microsoft forcing me to use their operating system + messenger, because I'd like to talk to my friends. (and yes, I really like the idea of jabber)

The MSN Messenger login consist of a handshake, where the client explains what features+protocol version it uses. If you make a client that pretends to be MSN 6 at Microsoft Windows, and supports the features (and secret challenges), you'll get connected anyway.

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people may find a way to connect anyway, but the legalities of this are pretty obvious. Key words: "Intellectual Property" and "DMCA." --from the gaim site
The new messengers promised to work with the new msn 5/6 login system, and I'm not receiving those "Messenger upgrade" messages anymore in kmess (cvs version) from messenger@microsoft.com

@jayakrishnan: your link doens't work

Last edited by yapp; 10-14-2003 at 09:01 AM.
 
Old 10-14-2003, 11:35 AM   #7
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gaim people are hopeful that SSL enabled 0.71v gaim will be able to work with MSN but if it will not then they might drop support for MSN
 
Old 10-18-2003, 04:32 PM   #8
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yay - it worx
 
Old 10-18-2003, 09:30 PM   #9
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gaim people are hopeful that SSL enabled 0.71v gaim will be able to work with MSN but if it will not then they might drop support for MSN
The largest GUI Messenger clients in Linux; gaim, kmess, amsn and kopete are able to connect to MSN. It seams that Microsoft's own client -- MSN 4 is the only one having some disadvantages (because not everyone likes MSN 5/6)

If you compile gaim from source, you need to compile with SSL support to make it work
 
Old 10-20-2003, 08:17 AM   #10
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The largest GUI Messenger clients in Linux; gaim, kmess, amsn and kopete are able to connect to MSN. It seams that Microsoft's own client -- MSN 4 is the only one having some disadvantages (because not everyone likes MSN 5/6)

If you compile gaim from source, you need to compile with SSL support to make it work
do you need to specifically tell it to include ssl ?

I just compiled from scratch and it gives me "error reading from server" - did I miss a flag on the make?
 
Old 10-20-2003, 12:57 PM   #11
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If you compile gaim from source, you need to compile with SSL support to make it work
actually i use CVS and it is working for me so now problems there. i was just saying what might happen in future
 
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do you need to specifically tell it to include ssl ?

I just compiled from scratch and it gives me "error reading from server" - did I miss a flag on the make?
I think so, or the ./configure script didn't detect the SSL libraries at your system. I've noticed that the front page of gaim explains it explicitly, but a lot of people had problems with gaim (including me)

http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q60
 
  


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