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Old 11-11-2003, 09:55 PM   #1
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mozilla 1.5 installation....how???


hello every1...

i m newbie trying to swith from RH9 to Slackware9.1
i have got the source for mozilla (mozilla-source-1.5.tar.bz2) but i m not clear about a few things...

1) where is the default mozilla1.4 installtion on Slackware9.1 located.

2) how do i uninstall mozilla1.4 before compiling and installing mozilla1.5..... as far as i know there is no uninstall button OR Add/Remove Programs button in Linux.....

3) Slackware9.1 has java plugin (JSDK 1.4.2 or something like that, i m not sure) and problaly also flash pluging installed by default......so do i have to install them again, after installing mozilla1.5?? I n RH9 i had to inatall JRE1.4.2 and place a symbolic link in the plugings directory of mozilla...

4) I have been told that Slackware doesn't support dependency checks........ so how can i b sure that, after installing anything from binary or compiling from source, .........its going to work??

Thanks.....
 
Old 11-11-2003, 10:04 PM   #2
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1) /usr/bin ('which mozilla')
2) removepkg mozilla-1.4-i386-1 (or whatever it's called)
3) not sure; don't think so - I don't have any plugins.
4) Nope. Fire it up and if it doesn't crash and burn, it worked.

I have 1.3 from my Slack 9 disk (don't like 1.4) and I'm trying to compile 1.5 right now, myself - as soon as I get the time. I got distracted between 'configure' and 'make'. Good luck to us.

You can just get the *.sea.tar.bz2 or whatever it's called if you don't want to compile it. I didn't like the way that one was either, though.
 
Old 11-12-2003, 05:33 AM   #3
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I've anwered your question in the previous thread you've started.

--> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...938#post594938
 
Old 11-12-2003, 06:02 AM   #4
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Didn't realize he'd already posted this on another thread.

Well, I compiled 1.5. Took around an hour on my 1.1 GHz Athlon. Strangest damn thing. I downloaded the source tar.bz2 and unpacked it. Deleted my Mozilla 1.5rc2 and 1.5 and did 'removepkg' on Mozilla 1.3. Then:
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./configure --enable-xft --disable-debug --enable-optimize --enable-strip --disable-composer 
make
checkinstall
I didn't pay careful attention during the make - some warnings and whatnot but nothing serious. I fired it up and almost everything seemed great. What wasn't great was checking out my Edit>Preferences... and seeing almost everything great there but Mail&Newsgroups>Composing which, instead of showing my a bunch of gui widgets, printed this:
Code:
XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
Location: chrome://messeger/content/messengercompose/pref-composing_messages.xul
Line Number 128, Column 13:

<menuitem value="" label="&fontVarWidth.label;"/>
------------^
Worse than that - while I could type 'mozilla -mail' or 'mozilla -addressbook' or 'mozilla -chat' and get all those components they didn't show up on the lower left widget box or in the menus. No way to access them but from an xterm. Weirdest damn thing. I was expecting an utter failure or a shocking success. Not this half-assed weirdness. I scoured the source docs and the mozilla site before and after the compile and didn't see anything remotely related to my issue except mozilla apparently having issues with autoconf 5x but that was only supposed to involve hacking files, which I didn't do. I know I don't know what I'm doing but I'm really confused about what I did wrong.

Anyway - I just downloaded an xft-enabled Mozilla 1.6 alpha binary and plugged that into my ~/bin just like I had the 1.5s that I didn't like. Works great. *shrug*
 
Old 11-12-2003, 09:20 AM   #5
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digiot,

this mozilla kind of problem is the one big reason I'm using gentoo now from stage1. a simple "emerge mozilla" is enough for me to get+compile the latest version of mozilla (fully optimized for my athlon cpu)

Slackware is a great system, and uses simple but effective scripts. but compiling large software isn't something I'd recommend. I've noticed that the gentoo emerge command applies a lot of patches to some software packages, and even kernel sources. ...even vim got 2 patches.

if you have 1 cpu, I suggest to use "make -j2", to compile 2 files at parallel. it will speed up things a little too.

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Old 11-12-2003, 10:46 PM   #6
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I have four processors but, unfortunately, they're in four separate boxes. Thanks for the tip - I'll look into that.

As far as Gentoo, I always meant to try Debian, Slack, and Gentoo. I do have Slack and Debian on this box and should try Gentoo. But right now I'm doing some preliminary reading on LFS. Considering my success with mozilla, that should go great. But I hope to get to both sometime.
 
Old 11-13-2003, 03:30 AM   #7
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debian and slackware are a good way to learn Linux. I've noticed that I can use a lot of knowledge from slackware when I'm building gentoo. There are a lot of tools I know about, because I've seen those before at Slackware. I guess that's the reason they suggest newbies should start from stage3. (stage1 is 11 mb, and starts with compiling your C compiler again)

yesterday I've been compiling XFree86, I guess it took 4 hours, and it downloaded 60 (!) patches before it actually started compiling. These are things you need to do yourself when using LFS.... but is a great way to learn Linux even better. A classmate of mine uses LFS on his server, but acknowledges it takes a lot of effort to install new software. (and he uses gentoo on his workstation, because it's easier) and if I have to install Linux quickly, I still would use Slackware If you have a running linux system, you can install gentoo from a chroot-ed shell while continuing to work on your system with slackware for example.

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Old 11-14-2003, 08:30 AM   #8
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Helloo everyone..

My especial thanks yaap & digiot for helping me out.
Well I fnaly downloaded <Mozilla-1.5-i486-1rem.tgz> from www.linuxpackages.net..... The way u guys were complaining about it, I was Kind of afraid before installing it :-). I tried to use the command "updatepkg mozilla...<hit tab>.tgz" but it kept telling me "bash: updatepkg: command not found"....

So i used "pkgtlool"; I removed mozilla1.4 and then installed 1.5. It seems to be working fine:-).... but my plugings are not working now :-( when I go to www.shockwave.com.... it tells me to down load the flash plugins; when I go to www.astalavista.com some stuffs on page dosen't load, and know that they require java plugings......

So.... what do u guys suggest???

Thanks again
 
Old 11-17-2003, 07:11 AM   #9
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You might want to migrate (move the files from) your plug-in folder from /usr/lib/mozilla-1.4/plugins to /usr/lib/mozilla-1.5/plugins

The plug-in files have been left there.
 
Old 11-17-2003, 09:06 AM   #10
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Hello everyone...

Thanks yapp... Your advices rock... :-) plugings are working fine again; So naturally I have got more questions ;-)

If there was a diretory </usr/lib/mozilla-1.4/plugins>... Does this mean Mozilla1.4 has behind some strings?? I mean, I uninstalled Mozilla1.4 using "pkgtlool" beforing inatalling Mozilla1.5 with "pkgtlool".
Man , I am afraid...... is this going to turn out to be another "MS-Windows" experience????? where you uninstall something; but it leaves behind tons of strings in the Registry; Program Files; .... you name it.....; and these strings later on come back to haunt you in the form of a gaint tangled MESS!!!

Please clear me out on this issue, anyone..
Thanks
 
Old 11-18-2003, 03:57 AM   #11
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Well.. not really.

First of all, this doesn't slow down your system

But more important, if you work as normal user, you can't create all kind of files (including trojans, or spread viruses) beyond your home directory. Settings will be created in the hidden files; that are all files starting with a dot. In other words, the global settings at /opt/kde/share/config will be overruled by ~/.kde/share/config. And all these hidden files don't take up that much space.

And pkgtool removes all files listed in the package, unless they are used by other package as well. If you've installed the plugin from another package, you should remove that package too, or upgrade the package. (upgradepkg is a wonderful tool, I'd like to use it more often then pkgtool.)

If you install all software from pre-made packages you cannot do much wrong. If you deside to install software from source, you could use "checkinstall" to create the package for you on the fly. (thus allowing you to remove the installed files later again).


And besides, Slackware and Linux are very open about things, virtually everything that happens with your system can be explained and solved, without reinstalling the entire OS. Just take some responsability, and don't make an entire mess out of your system ...but fortunately, with Linux/Slackware you're in control here. There are many things you can use to prevent this mess.

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Old 11-18-2003, 05:47 AM   #12
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After you use pkgtool to remove packages, you should read the log of what was (and wasn't) removed. It's /var/log/setup/tmp/PKGTOOL.REMOVED and it lists files that were removed, files that are included in other packages, and directories that weren't removed because they contain new files (like plugins).

If you look through this log, you'll find any odd bits that might need to be removed.

Enjoy!
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Old 11-24-2003, 02:12 AM   #13
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Exclamation

Hello everyone

Thanks for the help, I think I am beginning to like the "upgradepkg"....... but where does it keep the log of things that it changed??

Any way I have got new probs

I was trying to recompile my kernel(first time ever) and i have messed up things...

Is there any way I can reinstall a kernel from my slackware9.1 CDs..???

thanks..
 
Old 11-24-2003, 05:54 AM   #14
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Sure, you can just copy the kernel from the CD to the /boot/vmlinuz, then rerun lilo. Not sure where the kernels are in 9.1, but in 9.0 they're in /kernels/, and you probably want the one (bzImage) from /kernels/bare.i/

Enjoy!
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Old 11-25-2003, 05:51 AM   #15
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Thanks...
But how do you do it??... I mean "vmlinuz" is not directory!!
 
  


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