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Old 09-27-2003, 04:34 AM   #16
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So you are trying to model human bodies huh This is the thing I wish I could. God it really is hard...argh. Well, if you are into low poly modeling, the best way to model a human character is drawing two images of the character by hand, front and side, scan them and use as a background image in Blender's 3D viewer. Then you add vertex at important points of your characters as breasts, shoulders, chests and align them using you background image in side and front views. When done, you've to join the vertexes It takes time, but it gives a better accuracy them simply cast 3D shapes at the viewers. You can use this tactic for both characters of sceneries/maps . Here is a Milkshape3D tutorial, but the very same concept could be used with any modeler, as long as you find the tools

http://www.psionic3d.co.uk/tutorials/lowpoly/zmod.html

The zombie modeling example above rocks. Ahhhh, this brings me so so many good memories... when I and some friends were working together in a game we could never finish, Beyond the Phantasy, a RPG game based in a dream I had 10 years ago (when I was 13)... We barely made 2 villages. It was a really advanced DirectX project for so many young guys but we really had a lot of fun. Hope someday I have time to at least finish reading my Blender books
 
Old 09-27-2003, 11:33 AM   #17
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Well, I was working on a female in 3d Studio Max. I'll post some renders I made before once I get on my XP box. Those webcam shots from that one site are horrid! Those women are uuuugly! I wouldn't touch one of them with a 10 metre poll!
 
Old 09-27-2003, 11:47 AM   #18
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hahah.. yeah those women kinda scared me too... But I bet there are peoples who enjoy it... eeck
 
Old 09-27-2003, 12:41 PM   #19
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Well, I tried doing what you said about editing the XF86Config, and let me say this:

I'm happy I still have my boot&root disks from my Slackware install! I ended up resetting my system, and then my window manager wouldn't load! And this was a big problem since I boot into rc.4 instead of 3! I guess I'll have to boot into 3, tweak my settings some, then once I get everything worked out, set it back to boot into rc.4 again. I suppose I should also check my info for my video card: Velocity 4400 NVTNT(?). I'm not sure about the NVTNT, but I know it's a Velocity 4400....
 
Old 09-27-2003, 01:19 PM   #20
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Hmmmm, I see. Sorry for that That was actually the way it worked for me . Anyway, if you face a problem like this again, boot the system even if X server fails, then press ctrl + alt + F[1-6]keys. Even if you are unable to startx, you can call a console and fix the problem. Ctrl + Alt + F7 key will bring you back to the graphical interface, while F1-6 are reserved for the terminal. Editing XF86Config is not so dangerous, as long as you can use the ctrl + alt +Fkeys trick and that you've commented out (placing a hash symbol) where you've edited ratter then deleting the line .

All I can recommend is that you install mesa or other OpenGL library that Blender requires . Actually, if you can boot into Windoze, maybe you could try out the win version of Blender3D and see how you feel/like it

Good luck!
 
Old 09-27-2003, 02:10 PM   #21
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Well, I have it looking something like this now:
# Load "dri"

and that you have the line

Load "glx"
and it works, as well as Froggy. Well, Froggy has problems of its own, but that's because my computer I was running it on is a 200mhz Piece of shit computer. I really hope that I can put Linux on a modern box within the next few months, perhaps around Christmas, if my dad buys a new computer for the family(And then I can have my 200mhz act as a server!)

I think I will try Blender on my XP box, but I have to get the OK from my dad before, now that he's tracking what programs are getting installed.... Why can't Blender for Windows work like it does for Linux, where it doesn't need to be installed????
 
Old 09-27-2003, 02:24 PM   #22
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I really am glad it works now . Yeah, everything on Windows has an own installer. Each installed program has a set of own .dlls auto-installed at \system or \system32. Every program add something to the registries. After installing games, codecs, media players, burners, editors, ordinaries programs and other basic stuff, Windoze system gets dang slow... strange isn't it? A great system that is... :=) ghehe

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Old 09-28-2003, 03:24 PM   #23
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I'm still unsure why people here hate Windows as much as they do. For what it is meant for, it works fairly well. It's just that most people that use computers use Windows because they don't care how the computer works, they just want something that's simple. That's the main thing I have against Linux: Each program has to be installed a different way. This means that it's very discouraging for people, especially for people that rarely use computers. But when both systems are up and running, and they were set up properly, they both perform well. Windows does fine for games and the like, and when you disable the background services that you don't need, it runs perfectly. As long as the person doesn't delete programs instead of uninstalling them properly, the box doesn't get too slowed down unless the person is constantly installing and uninstalling, which most people don't do.
 
Old 09-28-2003, 04:52 PM   #24
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I do not really hate Windows, I also think it's an "OK" OS. I do, hate the way M$ and world-wide developers (both big ones as Photoshop and small ones) drive their business. WinXP home in Sweden costs about 130 USD. The average incoming for a swedish guy who works at the post office as a delivery man here is about 1.500 USD/month. From these 15.000 you take away about 30-32% of taxes. So WinXP is not really expensive here (nor cheap)

A postman in South America earns about 150 USD/month. You also subtract taxes from it. WinXP costs the very same price in South America. Now here is the question, will those peoples waste money in such expensive product?. No way... They will face two options, alternative products (as Linux, and btw Conectiva Linux is getting really big in South America now) or piracy.

I've been using Windows for a long time. Not even a good text editor (insert TextPad 4.0) is free. Whatever is free, as ICQ or CoverXP has ads. To have a nice Windows Box running, you have to pay for winzip, PowerDVD, Anti-Virus, Office, Nero, CloneCD, Firewall Programs and much more. In my case, as a hobbyist developer, I also would have to buy Visual Studio, Photoshop and a 3D Modeler. Who actually has this amount of money? A home user won't ever invest so much money into something like this. It's all cracked/hacked stuff. I personally don't know anyone who had even payed for WinXP and has Maya or 3DSmax running into their machines. M$ doing business is like "Make expensive enough for companies to pay and expensive enough to sue end users".

Windows (when I say Windows, I mean M$ and and it's developers, not the system itselfs) is nothing but a little toy box (insert games here) expensive and that in my point of view, incentives a lot of piracy in the way the OS is being taking care of. I've just downloaded Jamd Linux. Few minutes using apt-get and I have all I described above, freely, faster, safer and legally. There's nothing to compare those systems IMHO sorry...

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